Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-15 Thread alan c
On 15/03/12 01:23, Liam Proven wrote: Moving windows from screen to screen is easier than on I see that in Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1 updated (3D) it is possible to drag windows between workspaces as favourite Dad tried to do. It also has a method of changing size of launcher icons. -- alan cocks

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 March 2012 14:49, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 15/03/12 01:23, Liam Proven wrote: Moving windows from screen to screen is easier than on I see that in Ubuntu 12.04 beta 1 updated (3D) it is possible to drag windows between workspaces as favourite Dad tried to do. Er, you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-15 Thread Barry Drake
On 12/03/12 14:51, Alan Bell wrote: yeah, I suggested it. The best way is not to petition it or anything, but to implement it as a python based lens and submit it as an extra. I will do that at some stage, but it would be great if someone beat me to it. I can't imagine I'll be immersing

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-14 Thread alan c
On 13/03/12 20:46, alan c wrote: A tangential one here. Someone made a video of his dad trying Win8 for the first time. Worth a serious watch. There but for the grace of God go I. (But not to Windows for me though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nUfeature=youtu.be More reactions

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-14 Thread Andres Muniz
- Mensaje original - A tangential one here. Someone made a video of his dad trying Win8 for the first time. Worth a serious watch. There but for the grace of God go I. (But not to Windows for me though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nUfeature=youtu.be -- alan cocks

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-14 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 March 2012 00:42, Andres Muniz andre...@gmail.com wrote: - Mensaje original - A tangential one here. Someone made a video of his dad trying Win8 for the first time. Worth a serious watch. There but for the grace of God go I. (But not to Windows for me though)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-13 Thread Pmgazz
I've been using freenx which used to do the job perfectly but doesn't work with unity. Waiting to see if it'll work on 12.04 -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Andres Muniz andre...@gmail.com wrote: - Mensaje original - On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-13 Thread alan c
A tangential one here. Someone made a video of his dad trying Win8 for the first time. Worth a serious watch. There but for the grace of God go I. (But not to Windows for me though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4boTbv9_nUfeature=youtu.be -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread alan c
On 11/03/12 21:42, Barry Drake wrote: On 11/03/12 12:44, Alan Pope wrote: Assume you only have a short while to demo Ubuntu to them - maybe 5 to 10 minutes - you don't want to spend all day boring them and you don't want to eat up your/their family/work time. Among the other things

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread alan c
On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: In firefox we set up his webmail and pinned that as an application tab as a separate item, I am not sure how that is done, can we have a short separate thread on that, alan please? thx -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread alan c
On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: I noticed that Dad was peering at the screen a bit (I got him a new 17 screen to replace the 14 screen so there is more room on it, but similar dot size) so I used ccsm to set the mouse bindings for the enhanced zoom plugin to super+button4 and button5

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread alan c
On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: I set up a show Alan button on the desktop which makes a keys based ssh session to my home server on a static IP address and forwards his port 22 to a port here. I can then ssh back to him and log in as a user I created on his machine, I can also forward

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread Alan Bell
On 12/03/12 08:38, alan c wrote: On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: In firefox we set up his webmail and pinned that as an application tab as a separate item, I am not sure how that is done, can we have a short separate thread on that, alan please? thx right click a tab and pin as application

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread Alan Bell
On 11/03/12 22:41, Barry Drake wrote: Alan, don't agree at all with this ah, maybe you aren't talking about 12.04? On Precise, it just works intuitively (once you've got used to lack of menus etc.) Regards,Barry. yes, this is all 12.04. The apps lens is nasty, if you have a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread Barry Drake
On 12/03/12 10:31, Alan Bell wrote: it could look like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appmenulens.png but it isn't designed that way. Oh yes, that's really nice. I suppose you've suggested it? And the nice Canonical folk are not interested? Where can we petition to get

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread Alan Bell
On 12/03/12 14:35, Barry Drake wrote: On 12/03/12 10:31, Alan Bell wrote: it could look like this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/appmenulens.png but it isn't designed that way. Oh yes, that's really nice. I suppose you've suggested it? And the nice Canonical folk are not interested?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-12 Thread Andres Muniz
- Mensaje original - On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote: I set up a show Alan button on the desktop which makes a keys based ssh session to my home server on a static IP address and forwards his port 22 to a port here. I can then ssh back to him and log in as a userĀ  I created

[ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lets suppose you're in a relaxed location, your home or business maybe, and a distant family member, friend or co-worker (someone you know but not very well) says Hey, what's that on your computer?. Assume you only have a short while to demo Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread SuperEngineer
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 12:44 +, Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lets suppose you're in a relaxed location, your home or business maybe, and a distant family member, friend or co-worker (someone you know but not very well) says Hey, what's that on your

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Simon Watson
On 11/03/12 12:44, Alan Pope wrote: Lets suppose you're in a relaxed location, your home or business maybe, and a distant family member, friend or co-worker (someone you know but not very well) says Hey, what's that on your computer?. Assume you only have a short while to demo Ubuntu to them

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Grant Phillips-Sewell
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:44:56 + Alan Pope wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lets suppose you're in a relaxed location, your home or business maybe, and a distant family member, friend or co-worker (someone you know but not very well) says Hey, what's that on your

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread SuperEngineer
On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 12:44 +, Alan Pope wrote: Lets suppose you're in a relaxed location, your home or business maybe, and a distant family member, friend or co-worker (someone you know but not very well) says Hey, what's that on your computer?. Assume you only have a short while to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Stuart Ward
I would ask them what their field of expertise was, and then search for applications in the software centre arround that subject The other thing I would show is my current time since boot. Usually a couple of weeks, and the suspend resume time (and perhaps the boot time) Next I would start to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Daniel Drummond
On Mar 11, 2012 12:45 PM, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: What about you? What would you show and tell? 5 years ago it would have been wobbly windows. Dan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread alan c
On 11/03/12 12:44, Alan Pope wrote: Lets suppose you're in a relaxed location, your home or business maybe, and a distant family member, friend or co-worker (someone you know but not very well) says Hey, what's that on your computer?. Assume you only have a short while to demo Ubuntu to them

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Barry Drake
On 11/03/12 12:44, Alan Pope wrote: Assume you only have a short while to demo Ubuntu to them - maybe 5 to 10 minutes - you don't want to spend all day boring them and you don't want to eat up your/their family/work time. Among the other things suggested, I'd open a couple of apps in different

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Alan Bell
did this today with my Dad. I built a bigger faster computer to replace an aging XP desktop. First question was so does it have iTunes and I explained how rhythmbox worked and could put stuff on Mums iPod, we downloaded some songs from the Rock Choir she is part of and imported quite a lot of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Introducing Ubuntu Unity to new people

2012-03-11 Thread Barry Drake
On 11/03/12 22:25, Alan Bell wrote We went through the launcher and the dash, I didn't list all the programs I had installed. We pinned Rhythmbox and Shotwell to the launcher. I think the apps lens is a confusing pile of fail, and should be categorised by category and ditch the recommended