Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu Getting Too Bloated?

2010-05-30 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Nigel, On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:20:34PM +0100, Nigel Verity wrote: I feel that the ideal approach for any distro should be to install the OS and management utilities from the live CD, then leave the rest to the choice of the user. I would feel hesitant to make a generalisation like any

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-30 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/29/2010 06:27 PM, John Stevenson wrote: I use the social media enhancements and find them very useful, I would be surprised if they are causing any significant load, I certainly cant see that when I look at the processes loading the system.

[ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Paul Roach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 First of all, let me say this isn't a troll, but a genuine question with regard to the direction of the project as someone who's been on-and off using Ubuntu since Dapper... I've used a fair few distros over the years and have enjoyed some more than

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Daniel M. Drummond
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 10:51 +0100, Paul Roach wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 First of all, let me say this isn't a troll, but a genuine question with regard to the direction of the project as someone who's been on-and off using Ubuntu since Dapper... I've used a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Paul Roach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/05/10 11:15, Daniel M. Drummond wrote: Tom's Hardware had an interesting articles comparing Lucid with Hardy http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx,2634.html and this showed a general trend of an increase in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Harry Rickards
On 29 May 2010 11:52, Paul Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote: snip Unfortunately it wasn't a scientific test...but on Ubuntu I'd estimate about 50 seconds to login screen and a further 20 seconds to get GDM up.  Debian seems to get to the login screen in about the same time (maybe a little less),

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Paul Roach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/05/10 11:55, Harry Rickards wrote: On 29 May 2010 11:52, Paul Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote: snip Unfortunately it wasn't a scientific test...but on Ubuntu I'd estimate about 50 seconds to login screen and a further 20 seconds to get GDM

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Daniel M. Drummond
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:55 +0100, Harry Rickards wrote: On 29 May 2010 11:52, Paul Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote: snip Unfortunately it wasn't a scientific test...but on Ubuntu I'd estimate about 50 seconds to login screen and a further 20 seconds to get GDM up. Debian seems to get to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu Getting Too Bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Nigel Verity
Hi I am inclinded to sympathise with Roachy's view. Apart from a very brief flirtation with Fedora I have nothing to compare Ubuntu with. However, I feel that the ideal approach for any distro should be to install the OS and management utilities from the live CD, then leave the rest to the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu Getting Too Bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Daniel M. Drummond
On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 23:20 +0100, Nigel Verity wrote: Hi I am inclinded to sympathise with Roachy's view. Apart from a very brief flirtation with Fedora I have nothing to compare Ubuntu with. However, I feel that the ideal approach for any distro should be to install the OS and management

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu Getting Too Bloated?

2010-05-29 Thread Alan Pope
On 29 May 2010 23:20, Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote: the user. There is no reason, of course, why the installation procedure should not present a list of recommended applications, from which the user can make a selection. There are plenty of reasons, you just can't think of them