Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-19 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 19/02/13 17:40, Gareth France wrote: On 19/02/13 17:14, Rowan Berkeley wrote: My friend in Denmark has now got her Ubuntu. The main thing was, she had to re-make the stick; she had made it wrongly in some respect, the first time. It is not clear yet whether she managed the successful installa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-19 Thread Gareth France
On 19/02/13 17:14, Rowan Berkeley wrote: My friend in Denmark has now got her Ubuntu. The main thing was, she had to re-make the stick; she had made it wrongly in some respect, the first time. It is not clear yet whether she managed the successful installation without having disabled all the se

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-19 Thread Rowan Berkeley
My friend in Denmark has now got her Ubuntu. The main thing was, she had to re-make the stick; she had made it wrongly in some respect, the first time. It is not clear yet whether she managed the successful installation without having disabled all the security features in the BIOS or not. If sh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-18 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 18/02/13 22:39, Alan Bell wrote: On 15/02/13 17:43, Alan Pope wrote: On 15/02/13 17:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: He says: "Windows 8 hardware uses the UEFI replacement for the traditional BIOS, like Macs do. Some solid-state drive-equipped Windows 8 PCs boot so fast that you’d only have a 200 m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-18 Thread Alan Bell
On 15/02/13 17:43, Alan Pope wrote: On 15/02/13 17:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: He says: "Windows 8 hardware uses the UEFI replacement for the traditional BIOS, like Macs do. Some solid-state drive-equipped Windows 8 PCs boot so fast that you’d only have a 200 millisecond (that’s 0.2 seconds) windo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-17 Thread Rowan Berkeley
My friend in Denmark has finally got into the BIOS on her Fujitsu machine (the one on she installed Ubuntu to replace Windows 8 without making the necessary alterations in the BIOS settings first), by hitting F2 when she sees the Fujitsu logo. She has sent me a series of photos of the screens.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Alan Pope
On 15/02/13 18:47, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 15/02/13 17:40, Alan Pope wrote: On 15/02/13 17:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 using a USB stick. Given that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/02/13 17:40, Alan Pope wrote: On 15/02/13 17:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 using a USB stick. Given that F2 no longer works, and that the Windows

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Kris Douglas
On 15 February 2013 17:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 15/02/13 17:34, Gareth France wrote: >> >> On 15/02/13 17:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> >>> >>> Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the >>> Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Alan Pope
On 15/02/13 17:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: He says: "Windows 8 hardware uses the UEFI replacement for the traditional BIOS, like Macs do. Some solid-state drive-equipped Windows 8 PCs boot so fast that you’d only have a 200 millisecond (that’s 0.2 seconds) window of opportunity to press the key com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Gareth France
On 15/02/13 17:40, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 15/02/13 17:34, Gareth France wrote: On 15/02/13 17:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 using a USB stick. Given

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/02/13 17:34, Gareth France wrote: On 15/02/13 17:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 using a USB stick. Given that F2 no longer works, and that the Win

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Alan Pope
On 15/02/13 17:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 using a USB stick. Given that F2 no longer works, and that the Windows 8 machinery for getting into UEFI us

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Andy Braben
Thanks for all that, Alan. So, concretely, let's take for instance the >> Compaq machine which I successfully converted from Windows 8 to Ubuntu >> 12.10 using a USB stick. Given that F2 no longer works, and that the >> Windows 8 machinery for getting into UEFI us no longer there, how in fact >> wo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Gareth France
On 15/02/13 17:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 15/02/13 16:44, Alan Pope wrote: On 15/02/13 13:50, Rowan Berkeley wrote: "Windows 7 won't solve the problem, because it won't give you access to UEFI. What does that mean? UEFI is something which Windows 7, Windows 8, 64-bit Ubuntu, Fedora and prob

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/02/13 16:44, Alan Pope wrote: On 15/02/13 13:50, Rowan Berkeley wrote: "Windows 7 won't solve the problem, because it won't give you access to UEFI. What does that mean? UEFI is something which Windows 7, Windows 8, 64-bit Ubuntu, Fedora and probably other Linux distros support. It's bak

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Alan Pope
On 15/02/13 13:50, Rowan Berkeley wrote: "Windows 7 won't solve the problem, because it won't give you access to UEFI. What does that mean? UEFI is something which Windows 7, Windows 8, 64-bit Ubuntu, Fedora and probably other Linux distros support. It's baked into the machine just like the B

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Barry Drake
On 15/02/13 13:50, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I managed to get back in touch with my luckless friend in Denmark. She said she was thinking of installing Windows 7 on the machine, which she thought would give her access to BIOS. I replied as below. Comments and corrections will be welcome, since afte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
I managed to get back in touch with my luckless friend in Denmark. She said she was thinking of installing Windows 7 on the machine, which she thought would give her access to BIOS. I replied as below. Comments and corrections will be welcome, since after all I know very little. "Windows 7 won

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-14 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 14/02/13 19:29, Dave Morley wrote: On 14/02/13 19:24, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 14/02/13 18:28, Dave Morley wrote: On 14/02/13 18:12, Rowan Berkeley wrote: An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on it and tried to i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-14 Thread Dave Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/13 19:24, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 14/02/13 18:28, Dave Morley wrote: >> On 14/02/13 18:12, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical >>> reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-14 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 14/02/13 18:28, Dave Morley wrote: On 14/02/13 18:12, Rowan Berkeley wrote: An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on it and tried to install Ubuntu direct from the website, despite my detailed explanations and warni

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-14 Thread Dave Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/13 18:12, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 14/02/13 17:57, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> Hi, >> >> An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical >> reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on it and >> tried to install Ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-14 Thread Dave Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/13 18:12, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 14/02/13 17:57, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> Hi, >> >> An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical >> reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on it and >> tried to install Ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-14 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 14/02/13 17:57, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Hi, An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on it and tried to install Ubuntu direct from the website, despite my detailed explanations and warnings about this. She now has no Win

[ubuntu-uk] Windows 8 (a pox on it)

2013-02-14 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Hi, An Internet friend of mine (in Denmark, so beyond my physical reach) just bought a brand new machine with Windows 8 on it and tried to install Ubuntu direct from the website, despite my detailed explanations and warnings about this. She now has no Windows 8 and no Ubuntu, just a GRUB scre