Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-02-01 Thread Barry Titterton
On 30/01/14 21:21, Barry Drake wrote: Microsoft has been forced into supporting ODF and is clearly very annoyed by this. A little humility and listening to ordinary folk might have gone a long way. Humility seems to be in short supply in Redmond; here is a quote about ODF standards from a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-02-01 Thread Andres
There is also the point that trying to open an ODT file in MS Office prompts a message suggesting that file may be corrupt or contain unreadable elements. This cleverly plants the idea in the MS user's mind that ODF files are in some way dodgy or of dubious quality. This is clever, but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-31 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 30/01/14 21:04, Gibbs wrote: The only files I've ever encountered which I couldn't handle were a few Microsoft Publisher .pub Pub files are a right pain in the neck. I had a colleague once who did EVERYTHING in Publisher - and as we all know, the ONLY app that will open pub files is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread alan c
On 29/01/14 21:03, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there ... A couple of weeks ago, I did a BIOS (UEFI) update as requested after reporting a bug. The result was that an installation of Windows 7 which I had on a removable drive died completely and I lost it. How unstable Windows can be at times

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/01/14 11:20, alan c wrote: Congratulations Barry! I am surprised you could hold out so long! I said good bye to Windows years ago now and I actually think my health improved! Yes, really. Hi Alan .. One thing I have to use a Windows program for is to visit my local e-library. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 30/01/14 16:07, Barry Drake wrote: I've also been looking at the Open Documents thread. I think it was the last time we met, at a government consultation about this issue. Government grinds very slowly Schools are still teaching Microsoft BUT with kids using Android tablets

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread J Fernyhough
On 30 Jan 2014 16:07, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: Schools are still teaching Microsoft This is changing. Slowly, but it's changing. J -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! Y'know the comical thing is: when I read the subject line I had a sudden vision of Microsoft finally giving in and going open-source! ;-) On 30/01/14 16:15, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 30/01/14 16:07, Barry Drake wrote: I've also been looking at the Open Documents thread. I think

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread John Oliver
Within schools I think it is important to remember that Microsoft has been outdoing itself to bring educational establishments into migrating to Office365, which when you have Office 2013 and Windows 7 and above is great. It's just not so good with everything else (as the IMAP thread on this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/01/14 16:34, Bea Groves wrote: Y'know the comical thing is: when I read the subject line I had a sudden vision of Microsoft finally giving in and going open-source! ;-) Nice one! Oh, but if they do that folk might find out that bits of their code are tortuous and outdated

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Gibbs
On 29/01/14 21:03, Barry Drake wrote: When I looked at my very rare need for Windows, I found that I only have occasional need to use Microsoft Word to open a docx file which is heavily formatted and shows complete garbage in Libreoffice, and for the very occasional publisher file I am sent.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/01/14 21:04, Gibbs wrote: I've noticed a lot more people using Libre Office, including big companies like British Gas, which makes life easier for /everyone/. Now that is interesting! Not so many years back, there was a deep suspicion of open source programs. It is excellent complex

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Andres
On 30 de enero de 2014 21:21:18 GMT, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: On 30/01/14 21:04, Gibbs wrote: I've noticed a lot more people using Libre Office, including big companies like British Gas, which makes life easier for /everyone/. Now that is interesting! Not so many years

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-30 Thread Liam Proven
On 30 January 2014 16:34, Bea Groves beagro...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know the comical thing is: when I read the subject line I had a sudden vision of Microsoft finally giving in and going open-source! ;-) Well, quite. It should have said Windows-free at last! The missing hyphen changes the

[ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-29 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there ... A couple of weeks ago, I did a BIOS (UEFI) update as requested after reporting a bug. The result was that an installation of Windows 7 which I had on a removable drive died completely and I lost it. How unstable Windows can be at times like this! When I looked at my very rare

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows free at last!

2014-01-29 Thread J Fernyhough
On 29 January 2014 21:03, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote: Hi there ... A couple of weeks ago, I did a BIOS (UEFI) update as requested after reporting a bug. The result was that an installation of Windows 7 which I had on a removable drive died completely and I lost it. How