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(In reply to Michael Shigorin from comment #30)
> FWIW we've patched xorg-server in the distribution.
> Shame on those breaking base functionality instead of fixing their crap!
Do you happen to have a more recent patch? The ones posted here are very
outdated.
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> Do you happen to have a more recent patch?
1.19.3: http://git.altlinux.org/gears/x/xorg-server.git?p=xorg-
server.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5b77a90d7e0d6a1874fcb545969f355d1ed0293
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(In reply to Michael Shigorin from comment #32)
> (In reply to main.haarp from comment #31)
> > Do you happen to have a more recent patch?
>
> 1.19.3:
> http://git.altlinux.org/gears/x/xorg-server.git?p=xorg-server.git;
> a=commitdiff;h=c5b77a90d7e0d6a1874fcb545969f355d1ed0293
Applies well.
FWIW we've patched xorg-server in the distribution.
Shame on those breaking base functionality instead of fixing their crap!
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There is some progress upstream:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41115
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Hi. This bug^H^H^H"feature" is now over nine years old. As much as I'd
like to see a proper solution, I think it would really be best at this
point to at *least* add the patch given while we wait for that to
happen. Pretty please?
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@Michal: I have also 1.17.2 and reported DPI is still 96x96, even though
the actual resolution is 174x171 (see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512606 for details).
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I too would like Xorg to not blatantly lie.
The proposed patch from 2011 does not apply anymore to recent versions,
is there an updated one?
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(In reply to Michal Suchanek from comment #26)
> This seems to work for me.
Are you sure nothing is setting DPI explicitly or implicitly, such as your DE?
> X.Org version: 1.17.2
> resolution:100x100 dots per inch
> Actual resolution seems to be more like 109 dpi but it's certainly not
I am out of the office during the week of January 25th with very limited
access to email.
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This seems to work for me.
X.Org version: 1.17.2
resolution:100x100 dots per inch
Actual resolution seems to be more like 109 dpi but it's certainly not
fixed at 96.
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Hi All,
I'm jumping in this thread because I think this 'bug' is the source of
many scaling issues.
I'm the owner of a 13" laptop with a 3200x1800 native resolution. As
recommended elsewhere, I set the scale factor to 2 and most applications
are readable now. However, readable is does not mean
Yes. As mentioned it is a single patch to apply, that has been available
since the very first day the bug was reported, actually 8 years ago (I
was wrong when I said 6). Incidentally, I was the second reporter of
this issue, with Bug #572943, the second lowest numbered duplicate, one
month before
@Sergio, sorry but your comments are OT. Different resolutions for
different screens are not supported on the toolkit level; a window can
be on both screens at once and such, and it is beyond the scope of this
bug. Viewing distance again has nothing to do with this bug; DPI does
not depend on the
Thanks for your observations.
In fact, in my comments there were multiple points.
One of them is different DPI for different screens. As you mention, this
cannot be more than a wish for now, as Linux is very badly lagging wrt
windows that has been enjoying per-display DPI settings for more than
There is 62 people who think this bug *is* important. It is a problem
mainly with displays of which DPI is far from 96x96, such as more and
more common HiDPI.
Let's not turn it into discussion forum on Linux vs. Windows, or ideal
state of Linux. We simply want Xorg to respect the DPI reported by
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89820 All the information
you need for what's happening on my FullHD 15.6
And I do not agree this to be an enhancment as you are forced to use
LXDE (Which is the only one it will respect your HARD WORK ON SETTING
THE DPI AND DIMENSION) while all the
Argh. I am yet another hapless user clamouring for help.
My hardware: Apple MacBook 13 Retina, DPI of 227.
X.Org's infinite wisdom: DPI of 96.
My eyes are now broken, and i find myself tweaking individual apps in
the hope that they'll become usable. Inevitably, proportions become
crooked.
I would also add that in the case of multiple screens with different
features (e.g. laptop screen + desktop monitor), it would be great to
have different dpi values and apps notified of the dpi change when they
are moved from one screen to another.
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A couple more notes.
IMHO, the biggest issues with the current situation are the following:
1) The physical display size is available via xrandr. However xrandr delivers
it in a format that is rather uncomfortable to parse.
2) The hardware only provides a physical display size and not the
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Could someone provide an update on the status?
Upstream insists on keeping xorg broken along winxp lines; I wouldn't be
surprised if they fix it in wayland some day, years after winvista and ages
after it worked in X. I'd call this $name_that_sexual_minority default based
on the methods used
Here are recent update https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-
server/+bug/589485 but this bug hasn't been touched for over a year.
Could someone provide an update on the status?
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Fair point. Unfortunately from what I can see the xorg developers are
not interested in fixing this and believe that the current behaviour is
both correct and acceptable. Some of them seem to be suggesting that it
is the job of the window manager/desktop environment to pass the desired
settings
A couple of last minute HiDPI fixes have just been added to GNOME shell
3.12.
More relevantly, Unity 7 on Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr will have support
for HiDPI displays.
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Thanks for the info! However, let me recall that the bug is not against unity
and gnome, but xorg. For many reasons one may have X starting without unity or
gnome (because of using another desktop or a transient misconfiguration). In
this case, X should be able to provide readable chars even
This should definitely be fixed for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty).
This is NOT a wishlist item, this is a BUG.
Using a default DPI of 96 on a 200 DPI monitor is /NOT/ helpful at all!
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I'm not sure if this is being worked on for the Unity desktop in Ubuntu,
but you might like to try the Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 Trusty Tahr beta 1
which is based on GNOME 3.10 - see
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/UbuntuGNOME for info and
download links. As per
I too thing this should be fixed. The best argument I see for it is that
at least Gentoo tells you to rely on autodetection of the settings.
There was a time where you could generate an xorg.conf and then tweak it
but we've progressed past it because the config always broke. Now,
requiring someone
I would assume that by now a great deal of people do have a hi-res
display and are affected. This bug should receive highest priority,
certainly over feature enhancements as it ruins the experience.
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Please remove the enhancement status. This used to work and now it is
not working anymore, thus it is a regression.
Also note that the experience on all newer high end hardware by Apple,
Sharp, Samsung, Google (for instance see
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/20/samsung-and-sharp-introduce-new-
It dawned on me that a proposed replacement might lack such an, um,
feature of hardwired 96 dpi. Now if that will be called progress I'll
invest some time into finding those who arranged that and ruining their
remnants of reputation.
(creating and improving is vastly more important but the
(In reply to comment #14)
See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook#LCD
Heh, UX31A I'm typing this at has 166 dpi.
Those who forced the 96dpi kludge into xorg should be forced to walk in
my shoes till the end of their lives with no chance to change those.
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See http://pastebin.com/vtzyBK6e for #xorg-devel discussion about this.
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See http://pastebin.com/vtzyBK6e for #xorg-devel discussion about this.
Some comments:
ohsix not a lot of people are bothered, since getting the per display dpi
right is a hard problem, even if you can set it for one single monitor in
particular, 'fixed' is handling
More from that IRC conversation:
alesguzik I'm not asking about making it default, but when screen size can be
detected and resolution is known, what is the problem with dpi?
alesguzik It worked at some point in the past
ohsix it never worked
Ohsix's definition of never must be different from
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I may not agree with the tone that appears a bit aggressive, but the
observations by Tfa7 appear to be correct.
Furthermore, with reference to the justification that there are monitors
that report wrong/crazy EDID values, I really do not think that the
majority of users who have bought and paid
See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook#LCD
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Does anyone work on this?
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Patch has been posted here and on the xorg-devel list.
Feel free to rebase/resend/nag somebody with commit access until it's
applied.
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May the so called developers with I know better attitude be treated by
physicists with the same attitude!
They broke the thing for BUG compatibility with an obsolete piece of
crap for a single use case already handled in corresponding application
(a web browser), they told us to go sink in the
With the new Retina displays and the trend that they impose we are
shortly going to have displays dpi values from 90 (old large monitors)
to over 300 (newer laptops and tablets). Assuming 96 dpi for everything
will surely lead to interesting times.
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Any updates on this? Original bugreport was filled almost 3 years ago.
Current behavior is really annoying on laptops + external displays
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I wonder how much configuration iOS users need to do to get a Retina
display set up? The answer none comes to mind.
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This looks like one good reason to go with NVIDIA whenever you have a
decent screen :-)
Could someone be so kind to explain on what basis it is being stated
that the current behavior leaves the same flexibility as before?
Former behavior:
- do nothing to get the dpi from the screen, write 96 dpi
This change was introduced for all RandR 1.2 drivers by
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=fff00df . (Notably,
the nvidia binary driver is not affected.)
GNOME does also force X back to 96 DPI when gnome-settings-daemon starts
up (bug 157398, bug 246718). It’s even more
Public bug reported:
The X server, starting with 1.7, ignores the physical size reported by
the EDID or in xorg.conf and calculates it based on screen resolution
and a DPI of 96.
This is rather annoying for users of high DPI screens.
GNOME and KDE (used?) to set 96 DPI by default in their
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