[uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-03-28 Thread Steven Maddox via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Lo, We use Juniper MX series routers, and take various NNI services from operators like TalkTalk, BT Wholesale, etc... Essentially each VLAN they present on the same particular Juniper interface is a different leased line. But if a leased line goes

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-03-28 Thread James Greig
Hi Steve, This might not be helpful but I'll throw it out there. On customers that are delivered over an NNI to ourselves we monitor for a "significant traffic drop" in observium which looks for the following:- ANY / OR ifInOctets_rate le 2 ifOutOctets_ratele 2 ifInUc

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-03-29 Thread scott via uknof
--- Begin Message --- On 3/28/23 7:30 AM, Steven Maddox via uknof wrote: listen for BFD polls from their router, and then if it stops... to have the Juniper disconnect what that unit is connected to (e.g. a psuedowire across our MPLS core to where IP or VPLS services are delivered) but continue

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-03-29 Thread Richard Halfpenny
Hi Steven, Maybe look at BGP to the customer's own router/firewall? Private AS and they advertise their allocated prefix from your PA and you advertise a default route back. You still need to consider the customer's own upstream next-hop behaviour - BGP is perhaps the most straightforward in thi

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-04-05 Thread Steven Maddox via uknof
--- Begin Message --- On 29/03/2023 12:41, Richard Halfpenny wrote: BGP to the customer's own router/firewall? Sure BGP, BFD, OSPF, ICMP, lots of stuff the customers router could do, which we can check for (ICMP being the most ubiquitous and simplest to just check for a non-r

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-04-05 Thread Stephen Wilcox
You also just run it over a point-to-point eg https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/high-availability/topics/topic-map/bfd-configuring.html Doesn't this work for your setup? On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 at 14:17, Steven Maddox via uknof < uknof@lists.uknof.org.uk> wrote: > On 29/03/20

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-04-06 Thread Steven Maddox via uknof
--- Begin Message --- No because we're not wanting BFD to control whether there is, or is not, a static route (which is what that page is talking about).  It would seem BFD can only be linked to things under 'set routing-options' such as static routes, OSPF, BGP, etc... We'd want to use BFD to

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-04-06 Thread Steven Maddox via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Yeah we've been looking down that avenue already. It was what I had in mind when yesterday I described the scenario with the header of... "But here is a possible inelegant way!.." :D But it would be lovely if there was a way to do this without scripting.  For something l

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-04-06 Thread Stephen Wilcox
Maybe I'm missing the details .. BFD if up will install a static route, but if BFD is down it'll withdraw the route. This should solve the issue of is the VLAN up or down since the state will be based on BFD not the link state.. no? On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 11:34, Steven Maddox via uknof < uknof@list

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-04-12 Thread Steven Maddox via uknof
--- Begin Message --- Sure but there is no static route required here, or in fact any layer 3 routing. We'd want it to entirely control if layer 2 pseudowire is, or is not, allowed to form to that unit. Steven Maddox Business Systems Engineer Internet Central Limited Registered in England &

Re: [uknof] Monitoring if leased lines are down via an NNI

2023-04-16 Thread Tim Bray via uknof
--- Begin Message --- On 12/04/2023 13:34, Steven Maddox via uknof wrote: Sure but there is no static route required here, or in fact any layer 3 routing. We'd want it to entirely control if layer 2 pseudowire is, or is not, allowed to form to that unit. What is the MTU on the underlayi