Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
> You clearly have a very different customer base to the rest of Industry, then. Well our volume is in two places - mobile backhaul and Global services. Neil > > Simon

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Wed Mar 22, 2017 at 11:07:18PM +, Neil J. McRae wrote: > > On 22 Mar 2017, at 14:02, Simon Lockhart wrote: > > Is that demand not driven largely by the fact that 1G EAD is only available > > on fibre? > No. You clearly have a very different customer base to the rest of Industry, then. Si

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
> On 22 Mar 2017, at 14:02, Simon Lockhart wrote: > > Neil, > > Is that demand not driven largely by the fact that 1G EAD is only available on > fibre? > > No.

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Peter Knapp
There is going to be demand, forced by the lack of options! For me, having to specify routers with SFP cages for all connectivity on gig bearers is not only a pain, but considerably more costly than a 1000BT. Peter > Because copper gig ports are more common on CPE than fibre ones. Virgin giv

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Wed Mar 22, 2017 at 01:36:57PM +, Neil J. McRae wrote: > I think that depends on the market you are in, for downstream BT with 1G > sized customers fibre is in much more demand than copper, same was true at > the last two places I worked at also. Neil, Is that demand not driven largely by

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
> Because copper gig ports are more common on CPE than fibre ones. Virgin give > the option for copper as well as SM or MM fibre, it would be nice if OR did > as well. Since it's an SFP it should be easy enough technically. I think that depends on the market you are in, for downstream BT with

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Wed Mar 22, 2017 at 11:50:13AM +, Ben King wrote: > There's an open SOR with BTOR to add copper handoff on gig EAD, I haven't > check the status of it for a while though. The CP driven SOR got declined by Openreach because it would cost too much in internal development, and there wasn't an

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Ben King
There's an open SOR with BTOR to add copper handoff on gig EAD, I haven't check the status of it for a while though. On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 at 09:31, David Derrick wrote: > On 20/03/2017 16:55, James Bensley wrote: > > On 20 March 2017 at 11:13, Gavin Henry wrote: > >> Why not have the copper SFP

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread Paul Mansfield
On 20 March 2017 at 17:39, David Derrick wrote: > Of course, sometimes you tell the customer and they still phone up surprised > that their cat5 cable won't fit the funny hole :( at $JOB[-1] we had a contractor simply rest the fibres in the SFP hole, because he didn't realise the switch actually

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-22 Thread David Derrick
On 20/03/2017 16:55, James Bensley wrote: On 20 March 2017 at 11:13, Gavin Henry wrote: Why not have the copper SFP as a default, Why not have fibre as default? Because copper gig ports are more common on CPE than fibre ones. Virgin give the option for copper as well as SM or MM fibre, it

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread James Bensley
On 20 March 2017 at 17:01, Mike Jenkins wrote: >> > Why not have the copper SFP as a default, >> >> Why not have fibre as default? - Seriously though, this is document in the >> SIN >> documents, so for future reference, RTFM. >> >> "The client interface consists of a RJ-45 type socket for 10 Mbi

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread Fearghas Mckay
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Maybe flexoptix could do a deal with them :) We can usually next day up till 5pm German time, but you would need to call the office as well as place an order online as someone may be taking it to drop off at UPS on the way home. S

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread Mike Jenkins
> > Why not have the copper SFP as a default, > > Why not have fibre as default? - Seriously though, this is document in the SIN > documents, so for future reference, RTFM. > > "The client interface consists of a RJ-45 type socket for 10 Mbit/s and 100 > Mbit/s EAD services or dual LC sockets for

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread James Bensley
On 20 March 2017 at 11:13, Gavin Henry wrote: > Why not have the copper SFP as a default, Why not have fibre as default? - Seriously though, this is document in the SIN documents, so for future reference, RTFM. "The client interface consists of a RJ-45 type socket for 10 Mbit/s and 100 Mbit/s EA

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread Gavin Henry
On 20 March 2017 at 10:28, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> Original message >> From: Jack Kay >> >> Maplins appear to sell patch leads but no optics.. helpful. > > On 2017/03/20 09:13, Peter Knapp wrote: >> You cant really expect them to sell sfps though given branded >> manufacturer

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread Stuart Henderson
> Original message > From: Jack Kay > > Maplins appear to sell patch leads but no optics.. helpful. On 2017/03/20 09:13, Peter Knapp wrote: > You cant really expect them to sell sfps though given branded > manufacturers are all device coded (including Advas) Maybe flexoptix co

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread Peter Knapp
with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP Maplins appear to sell patch leads but no optics.. helpful. http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/c2g-85604-1m-lc-lc-9125-os1-duplex-singlemode-pvc-fibre-optic-cable-lszh-ye-r05xk On 18 Mar 2017, at 17:14, Gavin Henry mailto:ghe...@suretec.co.uk

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread Gavin Henry
Evening, Well, the layer 2 provider into us is SSE and the tail is Openreach. For a "small fee" SSE are arriving tomorrow with an SFP and patch lead. Sorted. Thanks all!

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-20 Thread Jack Kay
Maplins appear to sell patch leads but no optics.. helpful. http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/c2g-85604-1m-lc-lc-9125-os1-duplex-singlemode-pvc-fibre-optic-cable-lszh-ye-r05xk > On 18 Mar 2017

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-18 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Sat Mar 18, 2017 at 06:55:38PM +, Gavin Henry wrote: > So, customer needs an sfp and patch lead by Monday...hmmm..why do they do > this at weekends and not tell you so you can advise. Amazon Prime? :) https://www.amazon.co.uk/GLC-LH-SM-Compatible-1000BASE-LX-1310nm-Transceiver/dp/B01M2YIFH

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-18 Thread Gavin Henry
On 18 Mar 2017 17:46, "Neil J. McRae" wrote: Is it a 1G circuit ? Yeah, all cleared up (see my earlier reply). Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Mar 2017, at 17:23, Gavin Henry wrote: > > Hi all, > > OR didn't deliver RJ45 presentation like requested and our customer is > trying to get this up at

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-18 Thread Gavin Henry
Hi Simon, Yeah, it is. I've double checked our provisioning ticket and carrier order. It's all clear that it's an SM fibre end at the NTE and the customer was informed and accepted. Sorry for the OR comment, the carrier got my hopes up saying ethernet was requested but not delivered and they rais

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-18 Thread Neil J. McRae
Is it a 1G circuit ? Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Mar 2017, at 17:23, Gavin Henry wrote: > > Hi all, > > OR didn't deliver RJ45 presentation like requested and our customer is > trying to get this up at the weekend > > Anyone based round Arlington Business Park, Stevenage with some? > > T

Re: [uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-18 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Sat Mar 18, 2017 at 05:14:40PM +, Gavin Henry wrote: > OR didn't deliver RJ45 presentation like requested and our customer is > trying to get this up at the weekend If it's GigE presentation on an EAD, then fibre is the only choice. You can choose between multimode and singlemode, thoug

[uknof] Single Mode SFP with fibre patch lead anyone at or around postcode SG12FP

2017-03-18 Thread Gavin Henry
Hi all, OR didn't deliver RJ45 presentation like requested and our customer is trying to get this up at the weekend Anyone based round Arlington Business Park, Stevenage with some? Thanks. -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry.