Mark,
ok thanks. XML restricts the character set which by implication
restricts the NCR values. I see that > can't use an NCR but <
can.
tex
Mark Davis wrote:
>
> Take a look at the XML standard.
>
> Mark
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Hi. I am not s
Mark Davies wrote:
<<
Take a look at the XML standard.
Mark
>>
The thread was discussing HTML. Are there any restrictions on numeric character
references in the *HTML* standard?
- Chris
Gaute B Strokkenes wrote:
<< ...
That's the only benefit that Unicode and UTF-8 will bring to email:
the ability to mix and match characters from all scripts of all sizes
and shapes in a single message. OTOH, for those of us who need this
it's a big advantage.
>>
There are also a number of scri
Take a look at the XML standard.
Mark
- Original Message -
From: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 21:15
Subject: Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?
> Mark,
Mark,
Hi. I am not sure why you say this. < is often used for "<"
but < works in both IE 5 and Netscape 4.7.
shows a box though...
But I was not aware of any restrictions on numeric character
references. Is there a list of restrictions somewhere?
tex
Mark Davis wrote:
>
> No, but it is for
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > How about just supporting these: ISO646-PT, ISO10646-UTF-1,
>> > NATS-SEFI and HP-DeskTop?
>>
>> I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Assuming these are
>> properly registered charsets, it seems like a very narrow range to
>> support.
>
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 2001-07-13 17:32:55 Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> IIRC Euro (i.e. ISO-8859-1) support will be mandated by the
>> EU in one form or another (i.e. governmental agencies will not be
>> allowed to use soft
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 11:51:29AM +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
>and Russians a dog. Food offers other tantalizing metaphors. Swedes
>have borrowed the cinnamon bun ("kanelbulle"). Czechs have been
>inspired by the rolled pickled herring ("zavinac") commonly eaten in
>Prague's pubs. . .
Aha!
From: Gaute B Strokkenes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > From: Gaute B Strokkenes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> No way. Any mail client that is sufficiently clever to understand
> >> UTF-8 should understand all valid and registered MIME-charsets.
> >> After all,
[sorry if you receive this twice -- wee little problem with my mailer]
D> Recently I created a test file of all Unicode characters in code
D> point order (excluding the surrogates, but including all the other
D> non-characters). I will admit up front that this is a pathological
D> test case and
At 12:03 2001-07-13 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Unfortunately, the Windows world has no concept of a Last Resort font. It
>would certainly seem to be a useful solution in cases like this.
Does a PostScript, Type 1, version of such a font exist for
download somewhere?
Adam
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For Word2000 or Word2002, if you have the Korean retail package, there
is a CD included that has all the software you need. If you have another
version, such as English, I just checked and unfortunately this seems to
be an exception - I do not see this tool in the Proofing Tools kit or
Multilangua
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Then it's not standard and can't be relied upon. Pity.
Actually, it is a standard, as of HTML 4.0. All you need is compliant
browser.
MichKa
Michael Kaplan
Trigeminal Software, Inc.
http://www.trigeminal.com/
michka
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?
> At 09:49 -0700 2001-07-14, Ma
Gaute,
>
> > I have no problem sending it our with a " Windows-1252" character
> > set. If you convert to iso-8859-1 you lose characters that is just
> > as bad as sending Windows-1252 out as iso-8859-1.
>
> No. Conversion to ISO-8859-1 is better, since the result is actually
> a valid, meanin
At 09:49 -0700 2001-07-14, Mark Davis wrote:
> > >Maybe writing the value as an HTML numeric character reference (e.g.
> > >€) would also make it easier for processes reading files
> > >saved by the mailer
> > >to recover the character.
> >
> > Perhaps I have been asleep, but is that notati
On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 01:10:15PM +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
> At 11:07 -0400 2001-07-13, Tex Texin wrote:
>
> >Maybe writing the value as an HTML numeric character reference (e.g.
> >€) would also make it easier for processes reading files
> >saved by the mailer
> >to recover the character
No, but it is for the vast majority.
Some have to be written specially, e.g. <
Some cannot be written at all, e.g. U+0007 (but U+0087 can be!)
Mark
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 05:10
Subject: Re:
Not quite ... we call it Klammeraffe ... now how do you translate that?
Bracket-monkey?
Mar sin leibh
Mìcheal
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 11:51 AM
Subject: COMMERCIAL AT
> From TYPO-L:
>
> Date
At 11:07 -0400 2001-07-13, Tex Texin wrote:
>Maybe writing the value as an HTML numeric character reference (e.g.
>€) would also make it easier for processes reading files
>saved by the mailer
>to recover the character.
Perhaps I have been asleep, but is that notation () valid
HTML fo
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> From: Gaute B Strokkenes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> No way. Any mail client that is sufficiently clever to understand
>> UTF-8 should understand all valid and registered MIME-charsets.
>> After all, conversion libraries are both widely available and eas
>From TYPO-L:
Date:Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:40:30 -0400
From:Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: @ Long Last
A Brief History of @, by Bruno Giussani, May 07 2001
The man who first put the @ sign into the structure of e-mail
addresses was Ray Tomlinson, a computer engineer who in 1971
per
From: Gaute B Strokkenes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> No way. Any mail client that is sufficiently clever to understand
> UTF-8 should understand all valid and registered MIME-charsets. After
> all, conversion libraries are both widely available and easy to use.
Do you know of any that actually do? Ho
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