Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread James Kass
A glyph is a glyph. BMP or non- The GDI displays whatever glyph is provided to it. Perhaps demand for CJK Extension B support on M.E. (if any) will drive a revision to the software enabling non-BMP support. Since a glyph from a Plane Two font will display on M.E., even if bizarrely, it seems

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-11-18 19:49:08 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Surely, the browser's lack of ability in being able to handle > UTF-8 for Plane One, while handling UTF-8 for Plane Two > just fine (on W2K), is a bug that should be fixed. It also > illustrates that n

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread James Kass
If a Plane Two character can flicker on-and-off in MSIE 5.5 on Win M.E., then this OS and browser should be able to display non-BMP text without any problem. There is no reason for it not to work. Microsoft may not expect it to work and the flickering display may have been unintentional or an ov

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Well, I do not speak for MS and would not want *that* job anyway (especially for issues like this one) but one thing I *know* is the first tester's axiom: "If you do not test it, its broken." I am just about positive that they did not test such a scenario. Remember that Uniscribe still sits

Re: unicode demo: surrogates

2001-11-18 Thread Tex Texin
Yes, too cool! I can see them now! Setting the encoding to user-defined and using NCRs works. I'll set up the page with an Etruscan example. As for the zip of the rtf file, I am sorry, I forgot to give the url. http://www.geocities.com/i18nguy/etruscan.zip Tex James Kass wrote: > > Andrew "Ba

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Microsoft does not say this will work and do not expect it to work. You have to have an OS that suppprts this sort of thing. :-) MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/u - Original Message - From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael (michka)

Re: unicode demo: surrogates

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
For the Mozulla bugs on this, see bugs 102253 and 102254 in the bugzilla database. Set to be fixed by the 0.97 milestone. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PRO

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Re: Why have planes?

2001-11-18 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Why not store codepoint numbers as bignums? You can. If you use the UTF-32/UCS-4 encoding of Unicode you use four bytes per character, which is effectively what you're suggesting. The UTF-16, UTF-8, and UTF-7 encodings behave differently, but the option of using a fixed-

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Tex Texin | | Has anyone been able to create HTML pages that use surrogate | characters and get them to work with any of the browsers? I've had Opera 6.0 display the UTF-16 text file that comes with James Kass's Code 2001 font. I've also been able to display Deseret characters both from text g

Re: unicode demo: surrogates

2001-11-18 Thread James Kass
Andrew "Bass" Shcheglov was kind enough to provide a solution. MSIE will display Plane Two text if the encoding is UTF-8, but won't display Plane One text. The way to get Plane One text to display in MSIE 5.00 and up in W2K is to use decimal NCRs and set the character set to user defined. Andr

Re: unicode demo: surrogates

2001-11-18 Thread Tex Texin
For those of you asking for the data to try getting surrogates to work, I put a short sample page with etruscan at: http://www.geocities.com/i18nguy/aulusCode2001.html I also placed a zip file with a .rtf file that contains a little etruscan. This one displays well with WordPad and James Kass' C