RE: Planning a "Unicode Only" Week

2001-11-29 Thread Martin Duerst
It's very much working that way in any serious browsers. Some font formats (e.g. bitmaps for XWindows on Unix) use layouts corresponding to traditional encodings. Truetype fonts used on many systems can be directly accessed by Unicode, but part of the info in a conversion table is still needed to

Re: French uppercase accented letters (was: Re: Comments on FCD 5218)

2001-11-29 Thread Alain LaBonté
A 12:33 2001-11-29 -0800, Kenneth Whistler a écrit : > > Ask your "relatively authoritative sources" if they ever opened a Larousse > > or Robert dictionary. If they answer yes, ask them what they > observe... (; > >http://www.larousse.net > >L'ENCYCLOPÉDIE LAROUSSE KLÉIO 2001 > >and > >Le Dic

Re: French uppercase accented letters (was: Re: Comments on FCD 5218)

2001-11-29 Thread Kenneth Whistler
> Ask your "relatively authoritative sources" if they ever opened a Larousse > or Robert dictionary. If they answer yes, ask them what they observe... (; http://www.larousse.net L'ENCYCLOPÉDIE LAROUSSE KLÉIO 2001 and Le Dictionnaire de l'Économie de A - Z advertised on the home page. The

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Only one part of this is relevant to Unicode: J M Sykes wrote: > If [French capitals are] not accented, this implies that round > trip case folding loses information. Case folding and case mapping are different things. You mean case mapping, I think. Case map

Re: French uppercase accented letters (was: Re: Comments on FCD 5218)

2001-11-29 Thread Alain LaBonté
A 12:34 2001-11-29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : >Sorry about the previous message. I hit "Send Now" by accident while trying >to select some text. > >In a message dated 2001-11-29 8:58:42 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: > > > This in turn led to the myth that the French do

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread John Hudson
At 09:04 11/29/2001, Michael Everson wrote: >Odd. The Irish Gaelic typewriters had capital and small acute accents, and >capital and small dots above. That took two keys, though, and French uses >more than two diacritical marks. It's been a long time since I looked at an old French typewriter,

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-11-29 8:58:42 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Please spread the word. My French colleagues are frustrated and embarassed > by the continued propagation of this unfortunate myth. > -Doug Ewell Fullerton, California

French uppercase accented letters (was: Re: Comments on FCD 5218)

2001-11-29 Thread DougEwell2
Sorry about the previous message. I hit "Send Now" by accident while trying to select some text. In a message dated 2001-11-29 8:58:42 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This in turn led to the myth that the French do not use > uppercase accented letters... > > Please spre

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread John Hudson
At 09:28 11/29/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Please spread the word. My French colleagues are frustrated and > embarassed > > by the continued propagation of this unfortunate myth. I guess taken out of context, that does sound a little strange. I meant, of course, to encourage people to

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread John Hudson
At 02:16 11/29/2001, J M Sykes wrote: >1.Is the assumption that the French do not accent capitals > correct? I'm sure I've seen them accented, though I couldn't > possibly say this was consistent. If they're not accented, > this implies that round trip case folding loses inf

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread Michael Everson
At 08:48 -0800 2001-11-29, John Hudson wrote: >No, this assumption is not correct. French typewriters could not >type accents over uppercase letters Odd. The Irish Gaelic typewriters had capital and small acute accents, and capital and small dots above. That took two keys, though, and French

RE: Planning a "Unicode Only" Week

2001-11-29 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I think maybe that encoding (on the Internet) does not much > matter. As long as my browser knows that it is looking at > Unicode, it knows which, say, SJIS, character to look up in > the font to display. Must have table lookup or som

Re: Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread Otto Stolz
J M Sykes wrote: > A colleague shares my belief that a decision was made, not too > many years ago, to abolish the circumflex in French. Are we > correct? Not exactly. Cf. : | Après avoir examiné cette question avec la plus grand

Comments on FCD 5218, "Codes for the representation of human sexes"

2001-11-29 Thread J M Sykes
Greetings, and apologies for being a little off-topic. The Final Committee Draft of this standard is, like many ISO standards, in both English and French. A colleague has made the following comments on it: Is the column heading "Élément de donnée" correct? We understand that in standard