Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread Amir Herman
Quoting John Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amir, you are misunderstanding the nature of Unicode. Unicode is a *character* encoding standard, and the glyphs in the charts are intended only as a visual guide suggesting normative shapes for those characters. In the case of Arabic, a single

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread John Hudson
At 22:57 5/12/2002, Amir Herman wrote: If this is the case, why in Unicode it have Arabic Presentation A C to present the final, medial, and initial form of Arabic characters? Ah, this is an historical oddity. Character inclusion in Unicode is governed by a number of principles, which are not

Han Radical-Stroke Index

2002-05-13 Thread William Overington
In chapter 15 of the Unicode specification is the statement that the Han Radical-Stroke Index is available as a separate file. I have tried to find it on the web site with no success. Is this file available on the web site please? William Overington 13 May 2002

CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B

2002-05-13 Thread William Overington
I have been looking at the characters in the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B document. These are the characters from U+02 through to U+02A6DF, which, as I understand it, are the rarer CJK characters. I wonder if any of the people who read this list who understand the languages involved

Re: Private Use Surrogate Pairs (128x1024 - 4)

2002-05-13 Thread William Overington
The 128 is from all 128 possible permutations of 0 and 1 as the seven least significant bits of any high surrogate in the range U+DB80 through to U+DBFF. The 1024 is from all possible permutations of the ten least significant bits of any low surrogate in the range U+DC00 through to U+DFFF.

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread Michael Everson
At 10:14 +0800 2002-05-13, Amir Herman wrote: Dear Roozbeh, I would strongly suggest that instead of correcting the U+6AC, we add another glyph of 'GA' of letter 'KEHEH' (U+6A9) with dot above. It is not 100% wrong of saying that existing U+6AC represent 'GA' for old malay. Only that the

RE: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread Marco Cimarosti
John Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Amir, you are misunderstanding the nature of Unicode. Unicode is a *character* encoding standard, and the glyphs in the charts are intended only as a visual guide suggesting normative shapes for those characters. On the other hand, we know that this

RE: regarding unicode support in Oracle8i

2002-05-13 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Doug Ewell wrote: Michael Yau michael dot yau at oracle dot com wrote: In Oracle9i, the NCHAR datatypes are exclusively Unicode datatypes and supports both UTF-16 and UTF-8. s/UTF-8/CESU-8/ update ORACLE set ENCODING='CESU-8' where ENCODING='UTF-8' _ Marco

Re: CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B

2002-05-13 Thread Ping Yeh
Take U+2A009 and U+2A00A as examples, I haven't seen anyone use any of these in my life, yet from the radicals it seems that both are names of some kind of birds. Ping William Overington wrote: I have been looking at the characters in the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B document. These

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Amir Herman wrote: As conclusion, I would say that we can still preserve the existing U+6AC because it is not wrong, only the glyph is not standard and limited in its use. Later on I might send some images to clarify my argument. The task now is to add another glyph

Re: Useful Resources - Another round of spring cleaning

2002-05-13 Thread rajesh
- Original Message - From: Markus Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Magda Danish (Unicode) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: unicode [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Useful Resources - Another round of spring cleaning Google+ : markus Magda Danish (Unicode)

Re: Han Radical-Stroke Index

2002-05-13 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Monday, May 13, 2002, at 04:02 AM, William Overington wrote: In chapter 15 of the Unicode specification is the statement that the Han Radical-Stroke Index is available as a separate file. I have tried to find it on the web site with no success. Is this file available on the web site

Re: CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B

2002-05-13 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Monday, May 13, 2002, at 04:21 AM, William Overington wrote: I have been looking at the characters in the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B document. These are the characters from U+02 through to U+02A6DF, which, as I understand it, are the rarer CJK characters. Actually, this is

Re: CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B

2002-05-13 Thread Thomas Chan
On Mon, 13 May 2002, William Overington wrote: I have been looking at the characters in the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B document. These are the characters from U+02 through to U+02A6DF, which, as I understand it, are the rarer CJK characters. I wonder if any of the people who

RE: Useful Resources

2002-05-13 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
Rajesh, The correct links are now posted at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/onlinedat/resources.html Magda. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:10 AM To: Markus Scherer; Magda Danish (Unicode) Cc: unicode Subject: Re:

RE: on U+7384 (was Re: Synthetic scripts (was: Re: Private Use Agreements)

2002-05-13 Thread Richard Kunst
On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 06:29 PM, John Cowan wrote: What is this about Qing taboo characters? Can someone point me to an explanation (in English)? Thanks. One source is Charles S. Gardner _Chinese Traditional Historiography_, (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1938, 2nd

RE: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread John Hudson
At 04:03 5/13/2002, Marco Cimarosti wrote: On the basis of this precedent, and on the basis of the fact that sample glyphs on old copies Unicode book's will have a strong influence on font designers for years, it may be wise in this case to leave the old U+0643-like character alone and add a new

RE: Useful Resources

2002-05-13 Thread Smith,Gary
It may be helpful to know that USMARC is now known as MARC 21. MARC 21 Specifications (including mapping tables to UCS/Unicode) http://www.loc.gov/marc/specifications/spechome.html Gary L. Smith Software Architect Database Quality Enrichment Department OCLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

about JIS x0213

2002-05-13 Thread Yung-Fong Tang
dear unicoder: Could someone tell me the story about JIS x0213 and how could we encode JIS x0213 ? Is there a spec about how to encode JIS x0213 into SJIS, ISO-2022-JP or EUCJP ? Thanks.

Normalization forms

2002-05-13 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
I have been reading the Unicode Normalization UTR and have a couple of questions regarding it: - will string comparison methods based on NFC and NFD always give the same results? - is it correct that methods based on NFKC and NFKD will give different results from ones based on

Re: Normalization forms

2002-05-13 Thread John Cowan
Lars Marius Garshol scripsit: - will string comparison methods based on NFC and NFD always give the same results? By intention, yes. - is it correct that methods based on NFKC and NFKD will give different results from ones based on NFC/NFD? Yes. - if NFC and NFD give the same

RE: Normalization forms

2002-05-13 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
Hi Lars, Some information below... Addison Addison P. Phillips Globalization Architect webMethods, Inc. 432 Lakeside Drive Sunnyvale, California, USA +1 408.962.5487 (phone) +1 408.210.3569 (mobile) - Internationalization is an architecture. It