Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Monday, July 21, 2003 2:01 AM, Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 19:56 -0400 2003-07-20, Patrick Andries wrote: Yahoo's title is obviously overblown (sexed up like the BBC says). And isn't *that* the meme of the moment. One idiot said it and it spread like a virus. Ick.

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Karljürgen Feuerherm
Philippe Verdy wrote on July 21, 2003 at 1:48 AM This one decision of the official terminology group is not stupid: it adopts a term that is now spread among French and Canadian natives, Best avoid the phrase 'Canadian natives'. Even though it might theoretically embrace all of us who were born

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Patrick Andries
- Message d'origine - De: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 19:56 -0400 2003-07-20, Patrick Andries wrote: Obviously, the AP has found someone to say it is artificial. Of course, all language is artificial. Well, at least all new words that can be traced to someone can be so «

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Michael Everson
At 10:59 -0400 2003-07-21, Patrick Andries wrote: - Message d'origine - De: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 19:56 -0400 2003-07-20, Patrick Andries wrote: Obviously, the AP has found someone to say it is artificial. Of course, all language is artificial. Well, at least all new

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Peter Kirk
On 21/07/2003 09:00, Michael Everson wrote: At 10:59 -0400 2003-07-21, Patrick Andries wrote: - Message d'origine - De: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 19:56 -0400 2003-07-20, Patrick Andries wrote: Obviously, the AP has found someone to say it is artificial. Of course, all

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Karljürgen Feuerherm
Michael Everson wrote on July 21, 2003 at 12:00 *All* words must be traced to someone. They do not grow on trees. They do so: in computer data structures , at least! ;-) K

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what the i in the iLifestyle suite (iChat, iPhoto, iBook, iThis, iThat) means. For developers, a capital I usually means interface -- in code certainly but then often applied in life as only geeks can do. I have fond memories of not too

RE: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Jon Hanna
eBook, e-mail, eBay, e-money, and all that gunk. I suppose we could do without them. Even Apple's gone weird about it. I don't know what the i in the iLifestyle suite (iChat, iPhoto, iBook, iThis, iThat) means. e-jit, iDiot, iMbecile.

OT: Interfaces and, er, facilities

2003-07-21 Thread John Cowan
Michael (michka) Kaplan scripsit: For developers, a capital I usually means interface -- in code certainly but then often applied in life as only geeks can do. For developers read thralls of Microsoft. Us Java folks know that the names of interfaces properly end in -able or -ible; they are

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Monday, July 21, 2003 7:16 PM, Jon Hanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eBook, e-mail, eBay, e-money, and all that gunk. I suppose we could do without them. Even Apple's gone weird about it. I don't know what the i in the iLifestyle suite (iChat, iPhoto, iBook, iThis, iThat) means.

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Pim Blokland
Philippe Verdy schreef: I'm not sure that even all English users appreciate the computer related jargon and acronyms that their geek developers want to force them to learn and use. Hm... Personally I feel just the opposite. I think the computer industry has taken too many normal words and

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Marion Gunn
Scríobh Michael \(michka\) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I always assumed the lowercase i was either meant to be something similar to devs but mean something like information to normal (i.e., non-developer) types. Then, like any concept is has to be [over]used everywhere. Maybe someone from Apple who

Re: Last Resort Glyphs (was: About the European MES-2 subset)

2003-07-21 Thread Peter_Constable
Philippe Verdy wrote on 07/20/2003 08:37:19 AM: What would be the purpose of encoding these? I can't think of any. They certainly don't need to be encoded as distinct characters to use in a Last Resort font. Mostly for documentation purpose Since Unicode is not a glyph encoding

Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

2003-07-21 Thread Chris Jacobs
- Original Message - From: Philippe Verdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [OT] French Government Bans the Term 'E-Mail' On Monday, July 21, 2003 7:16 PM, Jon Hanna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eBook, e-mail, eBay, e-money, and

Question about properties of some Code Points

2003-07-21 Thread Elisha Berns
Hi, I have a few questions about the properties and categories of some punctuation characters. A few things seem counter-intuitive so hopefully there is a clear explanation. The property set Bidi_Mirrored includes pairs of parentheses that have left and right glyphs because their meaning

Re: Question about properties of some Code Points

2003-07-21 Thread Chris Jacobs
Where am I going with this? Basically what I'm after is a clean/clear way to tell if quotation marks and parentheses (plus the other bracketing characters such as '[' or '{' are opening or closing punctuation. That's the real question here! How would you do that using properties and