Re: Public Review Issue #23

2003-10-09 Thread Ted Hopp
On Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:19 PM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > Looking over the Public Review Issues... trying to scramble up the > learning curve and make sense of some of what it's talking about... > Here's a comment. > > I think U+05C3 HEBREW PUNCTUATION SOF PASUQ should probably also be i

RE: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

2003-10-09 Thread Gautam Sengupta
--- "Unicode (public)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gautam-- > > ... > > I don't understand. If the option to go to an alternative model is not available, why is it > important to know that the alternative model would have been preferable?   [Gautam]: Just for the sake of knowing, I guess. "..

Public Review Issue #23

2003-10-09 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
Looking over the Public Review Issues... trying to scramble up the learning curve and make sense of some of what it's talking about... Here's a comment. I think U+05C3 HEBREW PUNCTUATION SOF PASUQ should probably also be in Sentence_Terminal. I suppose it's true that there are Biblical verses

Common XML Data Locale Repository V1.0 Alpha Available!

2003-10-09 Thread Vladimir Weinstein
Forwarded on behalf of Helena Chapman: The OpenI18N WG of the Free Standards Group is pleased to inform you that CLDR (Common XML Locale Data Repository) V1.0 Alpha snapshot is available. The CLDR repository provides application developers a consistent and uniform resource in managing the local

Re: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

2003-10-09 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Gautam asked: > I stand corrected. Long syllabic /r l/ as well as > Assamese /r v/ are indeed additions beyond the ISCII > code chart. My objection, however, was not against > their inclusion but against their placement. I > understand why long syllabic /r l/ could not be placed > with the vowels,

Re: Euro Currency for UK

2003-10-09 Thread Markus Scherer
I think Addison is on the right track here. I would like to point to ICU sample code for this kind of thing: http://oss.software.ibm.com/cvs/icu/~checkout~/icu/source/samples/numfmt/main.cpp See the code there from setNumberFormatCurrency_2_6 on down (the preceding code is for older ICU version

Re: Euro Currency for UK

2003-10-09 Thread Martin JD Green
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Euro Currency for UK > > Isn't Euro support added to all CP1252 versions of Windows 98 and later, > > and in Windows 95 if people manually visit some Microsoft we

Re: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

2003-10-09 Thread Peter Kirk
On 09/10/2003 08:44, Unicode (public) wrote: ... Yeah, you're right. I presume you're talking here mostly about the combining classes of the Hebrew vowel points. ... Mostly. I have come across other similar cases e.g. the Arabic hamza issue recently discussed on the bidi list, perhaps also the d

RE: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

2003-10-09 Thread Unicode (public)
Title: Message Gautam-- [Gautam]: Well, too bad. I guess we still have an obligation to explore the extent of sub-optimal solutions that are being imposed upon South-Asian scripts for the sake of *backward compatibility* or simply because they are "fait accomplis". (See Peter K

RE: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

2003-10-09 Thread Unicode (public)
Peter-- >>... But backward compatibility is also good-- it >>means the solution was good enough in the first place that people are >>using it. >> >> >Not sure about this one, in the Unicode context in general. I have been >told of all sorts of things which cannot be done in the name of backwar

Re: Euro Currency for UK

2003-10-09 Thread jon
> Isn't Euro support added to all CP1252 versions of Windows 98 and later, > and in Windows 95 if people manually visit some Microsoft web page and > download an update for this? Yes (well, I'm not sure of the exact versions, but that's a minor matter). At this point most people who would have

Re: Euro Currency for UK

2003-10-09 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
Hmm.. this isn't really a Unicode question. You might want to post this question over on the i18n programming list '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or on the locales list at '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. You don't say what your programming or operating environments are. There are two possibilities here. If you want

Re: Euro Currency for UK

2003-10-09 Thread Stefan Persson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Euro symbol is not in ISO 8859-1, it is however in ISO 8859-15 and ISO 8859-16. It was added to CP1252 after the inital specification of > CP1252 and hence some systems may not render it correctly (especially since the update may have seemed a pointless install to some

Re: Cursor movement in Hebrew, was: Non-ascii string processing?

2003-10-09 Thread Ted Hopp
One issue with deleting a DGC non-atomically is that deleting only the base character can lead to all sorts of strange and problematic combining character sequences. At a minimum, deleting a base character should delete the entire DGC atomically. In Hebrew, I don't see any problem with deleting com

Re: Euro Currency for UK

2003-10-09 Thread jon
> The Euro symbol is available, and should be displayed correctly if you > have a suitable font, in CP1252 and ISO-8859-1 which are the usual > legacy encodings used in the UK - and of course in Unicode. The Euro symbol is not in ISO 8859-1, it is however in ISO 8859-15 and ISO 8859-16. It was

Re: Cursor movement in Hebrew, was: Non-ascii string processing?

2003-10-09 Thread Mark E. Shoulson
Peter Kirk wrote: On 08/10/2003 21:55, Jungshik Shin wrote: ... I've got a question about the cursor movement and selection in Hebrew text with such a grapheme (made up of 6 Unicode characters). What would be ordinary users' expectation when delete, backspace, and arrow keys(for cursor movement

Cursor movement in Hebrew, was: Non-ascii string processing?

2003-10-09 Thread Peter Kirk
On 08/10/2003 21:55, Jungshik Shin wrote: ... I've got a question about the cursor movement and selection in Hebrew text with such a grapheme (made up of 6 Unicode characters). What would be ordinary users' expectation when delete, backspace, and arrow keys(for cursor movement) are pressed arou

Re: Euro Currency for UK

2003-10-09 Thread Peter Kirk
On 08/10/2003 16:52, Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) wrote: Hi, I Have requirement to display Euro Currency Symbol for en_GB locale.I know that if we use en_GB as CurrencLocale, then it default to Pound.Is there any way I can set it to Euro. Thanks Pankaj Our default currency in the UK is still th

Re: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

2003-10-09 Thread Gautam Sengupta
Ken, I stand corrected. Long syllabic /r l/ as well as Assamese /r v/ are indeed additions beyond the ISCII code chart. My objection, however, was not against their inclusion but against their placement. I understand why long syllabic /r l/ could not be placed with the vowels, but why were Assames

RE: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

2003-10-09 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Gautam Sengupta wrote: > --- Marco Cimarosti wrote: > > OK but, then, your becomes exactly what > > Unicode's has always > > been: [...] > > You are absolutely right. I am suggesting that the > language-specific viramas be retained as > script-specific *explicit* viramas that never > disappear.