Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Doug Ewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michael is right, of course, that the differences between keyboards > amount to more than just the basic layout and Shift and AltGr keys. > There are custom shifting keys, dead keys, and unusual uses of Caps > Lock, not to mention Far Eastern IMEs. But I d

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Doug Ewell
Adam Twardoch wrote: > Do you know if there are human-readable versions of Windows and/or > MacOS keyboard layouts available somewhere? > > I'm looking for a way to compile a table that could look a bit like > the following: > > Platform LanguageLayoutUnicodeKeystroke > WindowsPol

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Doug Ewell
Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote: > Adam was looking for this work, already done. And he gave a sample of > what he was hoping would exit, out in the wild. What he said was, "I'm looking for a way to compile a table..." > So I was merely pointing out a bunch of reasons why this was not a > practic

Mathematical exist and forall in Unicode

2003-12-30 Thread Mirek
Hello, I am not sure if it is the proper place to discuss the case if missing characters, but haven't found better place. I tried to find out two characters in unicode and encountered the following problem. There are two characters for logical EXISTS and FOR ALL signs. There exists "old notati

[slightly OT] representing Arabic (in ASCII) in IM

2003-12-30 Thread jarkko.hietaniemi
Not Unicode, but... http://www.ascusc.org/jcmc/vol9/issue1/palfreyman.html

Re: Mathematical exist and forall in Unicode

2003-12-30 Thread Patrick Andries
- Message d'origine - De: "Mirek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello, > > I am not sure if it is the proper place to discuss the case if missing > characters, but haven't found better place. > > I tried to find out two characters in unicode and encountered the > following problem. There are tw

Re: Mathematical exist and forall in Unicode

2003-12-30 Thread Mirek
Dnia 2003-12-30 15:26, Użytkownik Patrick Andries napisał: I tried to find out two characters in unicode and encountered the following problem. There are two characters for logical EXISTS and FOR ALL signs. There exists "old notation" that is in unicode (exist = mirrored E, for all = inverted A) U

Re: Mathematical exist and forall in Unicode

2003-12-30 Thread Markus Scherer
Mirek wrote: Dnia 2003-12-30 15:26, Użytkownik Patrick Andries napisał: Do you have any reference as to the modernity of this V-like notation ? I made some investigations, when you asked about references and I found, that V and inverted V symbols are not common, they are probably typicaly polish

Re: Mathematical exist and forall in Unicode

2003-12-30 Thread D. Starner
These can probably be used as glyph variants, i.e., by selecting a US vs. European font (or whatever is the distinction). I thought glyph variants were supposed to look at least somewhat similar. -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http:

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Adam Twardoch
Michael, Peter, and others: Thank you for the responses. I agree with Michael that the simplistic approach I have envisioned would be rather incomplete -- I'm willing to accept that limitation. I am aware of many issues involving IMEs, "chaining" dead keys etc. I would be willing to leave them ou

Looking for more samples of _| (power tower)

2003-12-30 Thread Patrick Andries
I have found an interesting form of a power tower (_|, see the third line here http://pages.infinit.net/hapax/images/puissances.jpg). I was wondering if anyone else knew of other occurrences of this sign? Many thanks, Patrick

Re: Mathematical exist and forall in Unicode

2003-12-30 Thread Patrick Andries
- Message d'origine - De: "D. Starner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > These can probably be used as glyph variants, i.e., by selecting a US vs. European font (or whatever > > is the distinction). > > I thought glyph variants were supposed to look at least somewhat similar. Any reference to th

Re: [hebrew] Re: Ancient Northwest Semitic Script

2003-12-30 Thread John Hudson
At 03:34 PM 12/28/2003, Peter Kirk wrote: It is very interesting to me that there does seem to have been a glyph distinction (though a very subtle one) between sin and shin, in the "serech" example (http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/orion/programs/Altman/serech.jpg) of what is undoubtedly (in Unico

RE: Swastika to be banned by Microsoft?

2003-12-30 Thread Peter Constable
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Michael Everson > To respond to Mark Shoulson, one could consider that Hitler's > svastika was the logo of the National Socialist Party, and therefore > should not be encoded. IIRC, encoding of the Naz

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Adam Twardoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with Michael that the simplistic approach I have envisioned would be > rather incomplete -- I'm willing to accept that limitation. I am aware of > many issues involving IMEs, "chaining" dead keys etc. I would be willing to > leave them out of the

RE: Swastika to be banned by Microsoft?

2003-12-30 Thread Peter Constable
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Everson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The following story was forwarded to me. The "offending" characters > in question are, I take it, the left-facing and right-facing swastika > symbols, often used in Tibetan, found among the Chinese ideographs at > U+

Re: Mathematical exist and forall in Unicode

2003-12-30 Thread D. Starner
> > I thought glyph variants were supposed to look at least somewhat similar. > > Any reference to this similarity in appearance as a condition ? > > (Is the Sütterlin »e« a glyph variant of standard latin «e» then ? It does > not ressemble any other "e" I know but rather an "n".) > > P.A. Oka

Ligatures with diacritics (was: Ancient Northwest Semitic Script)

2003-12-30 Thread Peter Kirk
On 30/12/2003 11:44, John Hudson wrote: At 11:15 AM 12/30/2003, Peter Kirk wrote: Even if it were verified, it isn't a good case for encoding a separate character *equivalent* to a combination of two existing characters: that's a glyph variant ligature. Actually, I don't think so. The separat

Re: Ligatures with diacritics (was: Ancient Northwest Semitic Script)

2003-12-30 Thread Chris Jacobs
> I wonder if there are other, better defined, cases of ligatures between > base characters and diacritics in other scripts, i.e. cases where there > is an optional alternative to base character plus diacritic which does > not look like the base character plus the diacritic. Devangari? Sylla

Problem in handling certain Unicode characters in Netscape 4.75

2003-12-30 Thread souravm
  Hi,   I’m facing problem in handling problems in handling certain Unicode characters through UTF-8 encoding in Netscape 4.75. Here goes the detail information on the problem.   1. The characters giving problem are Circled numbers (\u2460 to \u2469), Upper case Roman numbers (\u2160 t