Are there any languages that use letters with diacriticals, but *never*
use the base letter without diacriticals? A made-up example to explain
what made me think of it: Let's say a language has "ö", to represent the
same sound that it does in German, but not "o", because the language
lacks the
> [Original Message]
> From: C J Fynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I thought to get a patent you were supposed to invent something new and
not
> obvious.
>
> Other than the shape of the letters (which are apparently derivative)
what is
> novel about a script which doesn't have complex shaping behavio
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From: "Kenneth Whistler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: in the NEW YORK TIMES today, report of a USA patent for a met
hod to make the Arabic language easier to read/write/typeset
On Monday 2004.03.15 11:50:05 -0800, Mike Ayers wrote:
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Frank Yung-Fong Tang
> > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:16 AM
>
> > It seems not a very new idea. Similar idea have been used in
> > Chinese 40
> > years ago and create
Mark Shoulson said:
> (Me, I think
> it's a cool idea, but I'm notorious for being fascinated by shiny new
> things.)
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I thought to get a patent you were supposed to invent something new and not
obvious.
Other than the shape of the letters (which are apparently derivative) what is
novel about a script which doesn't have complex shaping behaviour (whether for
writing Arabic or any other language) ?
I can understa
> [Original Message]
> From: Ernest Cline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > In the NEW YORK TIMES today
> > comes a report of a USA patent for a new version of written Arabic
> > letters, designed to make them easier to read/write/
And see http://www.arabetics.com/ for the official site. (Me, I think
it's a cool idea, but I'm notorious for being fascinated by shiny new
things.)
~mark
Mike Ayers wrote:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Michael Everson
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:40 AM
>
(Still not working, retrying to send this message with different options, there
may be a problem in the Unicode mailing list server)
For your information, here is a document better documenting the beautiful glyphs
used in the "JG Mende" True Type font by Jason Glavy, and comments from the
author o
It's not new in the Arabic world either; the 1920 saw many attempts to
"rationalize" Arabic writing, to get rid of the connectedness etc. For an
historical overview, see:
Author/Artist: Hamm, Roberto, 1939-
Title: Pour une typographie arabe : contribution technique à la
démocratisation
Mike Ayers wrote on 3/15/2004, 2:50 PM:
> From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Frank
Yung-Fong Tang
> Sent: Monday,
March 15, 2004 11:16 AM
> It seems not a very
new idea. Similar idea have been used in
> Chinese 40
> years ago
Title: RE: in the NEW YORK TIMES today, report of a USA patent for a method to make the Arabic language easier to read/write/typeset
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Frank Yung-Fong Tang
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:16 AM
> It seems not a very new idea
Title: RE: in the NEW YORK TIMES today, report of a USA patent for a method to make the Arabic language easier to read/write/typeset
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Michael Everson
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:40 AM
> In the NEW YORK TIMES today
> come
Peter Kirk va escriure:
>> 2. A graduate student mentioned that it was her impression that most
>> Cyrillic webpages (at least for Russian--her interest) are still not
>> encoded in Unicode. (She is doing some research on the use of
>> certain words in Russian and wanted to know how best to do the
many different reason you will see ? there.
read my paper http://people.netscape.com/ftang/paper/unicode25/a302.htm
to see a list.
Manga wrote on 3/15/2004, 10:07 AM:
> I use UTF-8 encoding in java code to store multi byte characters in the
> db . When i retreive the multi byte characters
Wow.
It seems not a very new idea. Similar idea have been used in Chinese 40
years ago and create the differences between Simplifed Chinese And
Traditional Chinese.
Michael Everson wrote on 3/15/2004, 12:40 PM:
> In the NEW YORK TIMES today
> comes a report of a USA patent for a new version o
> [Original Message]
> From: Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> In the NEW YORK TIMES today
> comes a report of a USA patent for a new version of written Arabic
> letters, designed to make them easier to read/write/typeset without
> making them too different from traditional Arabic script:
>
Steve,
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Michael Everson wrote:
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:40 PM
My only concern is: WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY did Mr. Abulhab decide to announce
this on March 15!?
Could he just wait 17 more days, it would have been such a brilliant April
Fool!
_ Marco
In the NEW YORK TIMES today
comes a report of a USA patent for a new version of written Arabic
letters, designed to make them easier to read/write/typeset without
making them too different from traditional Arabic script:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/15/technology/15patent.html -
The piece include
Quoting Stefan Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Ladies and Gentlemen
> >
> > > http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U.pdf
> >is there any other HTML-Code to
> >edit the percent sign % ?
>
> %
>
> Stefan
Or for that matter % since it isn't significant in
Manga wrote:
> I use UTF-8 encoding in java code to store multi byte characters in
> the db . When i retreive the multi byte characters from db , i see
> "?" inplace of the actual multi byte characters. I use solaris os.
> Is there any environment variable which i can set to see the actual
> char
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U.pdf
is there any other HTML-Code to
edit the percent sign % ?
%
Stefan
Hi Manga,
There are two things that you need to check here.
First, is your environment set up to display the non-ASCII characters?
Solaris offers an impressive array of UTF-8 locales which should allow you
to view Unicode data. You can switch to one of these by setting your LANG
environment varia
Ladies and Gentlemen
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U.pdf
is there any other HTML-Code to
edit the percent sign % ?
thank's
Steinmeier
c/o
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use UTF-8 encoding in java code to store multi byte characters in the
db . When i retreive the multi byte characters from db , i see
"?" inplace of the actual multi byte characters. I use solaris os.
Is there any environment variable which i can set to see the actual
characters on my terminal
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