From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Frank Yung-Fong Tang"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Asmus Freytag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: Standardize TimeZone ID
> If the offic
From: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> LDML does require the Olson IDs to identify time zones (as does Unix, Java,
> ICU,...). See the discussion in
> http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/.
Am I alone not being able to open in Excel the "leastsq.xls" worksheet from the
Olson data? (My Excel 2000
At 20:59 -0700 2004-04-24, Asmus Freytag wrote:
As it stands [EMAIL PROTECTED],org is intended to be the list for members
of the LTC. For technical discussions among the committee members
that's indeed the correct alias.
There's a corresponding alias for UTC business, also open to members.
It
(I don't know how to post to the CLDR list, so sorry if this question goes to
the wrong place, this message may be forwarded there)
ISO 3166 has made some privisions for codes reserved as they are already in use
by ITU and/or WIPU, even if they are not strictly "assigned". These code do
exist as t
From: "Philippe Verdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> - Norway [NO], (in EFTA too)
> - Turkey* [TR],
> - Iceland [IS],
> - Switzerland [CH], (in EFTA too)
> - Liechtenstein [LI], (in EFTA too)
> - San Marino [SM], (in EFTA too)
...
A bad copy/paste included San Marino in EFTA, instead of Iceland... Sorry f
There is a different committee mailing list than the one for the UTC. However,
for the public [EMAIL PROTECTED] list it didn't seem worth having separate
public list yet. (After all, much of the material on [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
general globalization discussion -- and often even pretty far off that
At 08:49 -0700 2004-04-25, Mark Davis wrote:
There is a different committee mailing list than the one for the UTC. However,
for the public [EMAIL PROTECTED] list it didn't seem worth having separate
public list yet. (After all, much of the material on [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
general globalization disc
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> At 08:49 -0700 2004-04-25, Mark Davis wrote:
> >There is a different committee mailing list than the one for the UTC.
However,
> >for the public [EMAIL PROTECTED] list it didn't seem worth having
separate
> >public list yet. (After all, much of the mate
From: Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> At 08:49 -0700 2004-04-25, Mark Davis wrote:
> >There is a different committee mailing list than the one for the UTC.
However,
> >for the public [EMAIL PROTECTED] list it didn't seem worth having
separate
> >public list yet. (After all, much of the ma
At 09:30 -0700 2004-04-25, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:
I find myself in the [rare? ] position of agreeing with Michael Everson
wholeheartedly.
(*embraces MichKa*)
Seems like those who want to combine them in a huge mishmosh can
simply belong to both lists, right?
Even I might want to belong
Ernest,
I consider the whole "Standardize TimeZone ID" thread to have been
off-topic for the Unicode list. It is not about Unicode. It is about
locales.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
I note that there's still no announcement in the OpenI18N.org "News&Headline"
part of its home page, and nothing about the future of the project and its new
policy... I don't think that the LADE, IM, Ultil Dev, Test Suites, and m17n-lib
parts will fall into the scope of Unicode.org...
The only thin
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> At 09:30 -0700 2004-04-25, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:
>
> >I find myself in the [rare? ] position of agreeing with Michael Everson
> >wholeheartedly.
>
> (*embraces MichKa*)
>
> >Seems like those who want to combine them in a huge mishmosh can
> >
This is a public, general purpose list. There are already many discussions of
topics unrelated to the Unicode standard per se; just look back over your
messages sorted by subject, and you'll see *many* of them. But we do not enforce
what gets discussed on this list (except to within very broad limi
From: "Doug Ewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Speaking of the Olson time zone data, is it just me or has the site
> ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tz been out of commission for the past few
> days?
>
> Now that it's a normative part of LDML and all, I'd like to update my
> copy to something newer than 200
At 11:35 -0700 2004-04-25, Mark Davis wrote:
This is a public, general purpose list.
Decidated to the discussion of the Unicode Standard and its implementation.
There are already many discussions of topics unrelated to the
Unicode standard per se; just look back over your messages sorted by
subj
On 24/04/2004 21:01, Ernest Cline wrote:
... My point here was that adding a category of characters
that was tightly bound to the preceding character without using the
existing combining class mechanism would cause problems
for normalization that could not be avoided, and as such, it is
impossible
Michael Everson scripsit:
> Please, Mark. You don't spend as much time on the Unicode list as I
> do. Trust me.
>
> Or trust MichKa.
>
> Either way, please make a new list for this specialized discussion area.
I add my voice to these. Please create a separate list for public
discussion of loc
On 25/04/2004 10:09, Ernest Cline wrote:
...If the need for a separate list exists, it should soon make itself
apparent.
I think this has already made itself apparent, from the 30 or so e-mails
on this topic which I have received in just one day, and not even a
working day for most of us. Thi
> From: Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> As for the new variant selectors being in the SSP, is this actually
> necessary, or could they be in the Hebrew block, space permitting?
> After all, if we are talking about VSs with the fixed combining classes
> of Hebrew points, they are useful only
From: Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 25/04/2004 10:09, Ernest Cline wrote:
>
> >...If the need for a separate list exists, it should soon make itself
> >apparent.
>
> I think this has already made itself apparent, from the 30 or so e-mails
> on this topic which I have received in just one d
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