Re[2]: Importance of diacritics

2004-07-14 Thread Alexander Savenkov
Hello, 2004-07-13T13:57:37+03:00 Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the original Russian, the two dots would appear over the Cyrillic e only in rather specialised circumstances or in texts marked up beginners. Correct. Some people however would like to change that (i.e. so that the dots

Re: Umlaut and Tréma, was: Variation sele ctors and vowel marks

2004-07-14 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Peter Kirk wrote: At 11:02 AM 7/13/2004, Peter Kirk wrote: I was surprised to see that WG2 has accepted a proposal made by the US National Body to use CGJ to distinguish between Umlaut and Tréma in German bibliographic data. And Asmus responded: You raise some interesting

Re: Importance of diacritics

2004-07-14 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2004.07.14, 15:31, Alexander Savenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2004-07-13T13:57:37+03:00 Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the original Russian, the two dots would appear over the Cyrillic e only in rather specialised circumstances or in texts marked up beginners. Correct. Some

Re: Umlaut and Tréma, was: Variation sele ctors and vowel marks

2004-07-14 Thread Peter Kirk
On 14/07/2004 18:40, Kenneth Whistler wrote: ... OK. But this is not a unique case. For example, in Hebrew Silluq and Meteg, Dagesh and Shuruq are pairs of different marks which share a glyph and so a Unicode character but may need to be distinguished for certain processes. Can you show a

Re: Umlaut and Trma, was: Variation sele ctors and vowel marks

2004-07-14 Thread Doug Ewell
Kenneth Whistler kenw at sybase dot com wrote: So I must agree with Doug that CGJ + COMBINING DIAERESIS is a hack. It is simply a way to maintain a distinction needed for German bibliographic data to behave as required, while representing their data in Unicode. Call it a hack if you like,

Re: Umlaut and Trma, was: Variation sele ctors and vowel marks

2004-07-14 Thread Doug Ewell
Peter Kirk peterkirk at qaya dot org wrote: It seems to me that this solution will also result in massive data representation ambiguities for German data (quote from N2819). It's not German data (with umlauts) that will be affected by this solution, but non-German data (with diaereses) in

Re: Umlaut and Trma, was: Variation sele ctors and vowel marks

2004-07-14 Thread Peter Kirk
On 14/07/2004 21:18, Doug Ewell wrote: ... Peter apparently didn't read the section I quoted from N2819 about CGJ not causing normalization problems. I did read it, but it didn't deal with the issue I was concerned about, of multiple combining marks. And I was concerned about that issue

Re: Umlaut and Tréma, was: Variation sele ctors and vowel marks

2004-07-14 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Peter Kirk continued: I did read it, but it didn't deal with the issue I was concerned about, of multiple combining marks. And I was concerned about that issue because that was the major concern expressed in the earlier discussion on variation selectors, and presented as the decisive