Re: Umlaut and Trma, was: Variation selectors and vowel marks

2004-07-15 Thread Peter Kirk
On 15/07/2004 10:32, Asmus Freytag wrote: Nobody doubts that some text exists with multiple accents on vowels. Where the vowels are not Latin a,o,u, there is no issue at all, in this case, since there are no differences in German sorting for them. ... Well, yes, but

Re: Umlaut and Tréma, was: Variation selectors and vowel marks

2004-07-15 Thread Peter Kirk
On 15/07/2004 10:56, Dominikus Scherkl (MGW) wrote: Secondly, the dieresis is used to indicate that two vowels are pronounced separately. I haven't seen a case where the vowels would already be accented. There are such cases May be, but it doesn't matter - no german reader would

Re[2]: Importance of diacritics

2004-07-15 Thread Alexander Savenkov
2004-07-14T19:20:35+03:00 Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For in Russian these dots are considered highly optional, and e with dots (pronounced o or yo - a spelling rule prescribes this instead of o after certain letters when stressed) is not a separate letter of the alphabet (contrast i

Re: Importance of diacritics

2004-07-15 Thread Peter Kirk
On 15/07/2004 13:21, Alexander Savenkov wrote: ... By contrast, and are not interfiled. I cant see why you put these as an example. They are completely different letters (vowel and consonant), notwithstanding their similar look. ... I used these as an example because in Unicode canonically

Re: Umlaut and Tréma, was: Variation sele ctors and vowel marks

2004-07-15 Thread Peter Kirk
On 15/07/2004 13:07, Asmus Freytag wrote: ... Unless you can show that the usage that's intended can't work in the context for which it's intended - and you are far from showing that, you really have no case. My point is rather that the context for the usage is defined is not clearly defined.

Re: Umlaut and Trma, was: Variation selectors and vowel marks

2004-07-15 Thread Doug Ewell
Peter Kirk peterkirk at qaya dot org wrote: Nobody doubts that some text exists with multiple accents on vowels. Where the vowels are not Latin a,o,u, there is no issue at all, in this case, since there are no differences in German sorting for them. Well, yes, but

Re: Importance of diacritics

2004-07-15 Thread Mark Davis
That is a red herring. Whether or not two characters are distinct in NFD -- or NFC -- is completely orthogonal to whether they are considered a single unit in various processes, such as collation, searching, and matching. Mark - Original Message - From: Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Unicode v. 4 font software for Mac

2004-07-15 Thread David Branner
I work with many rare Chinese graphs and am looking for font-design software for Macintosh OS X that will enable me to control the forms of some of the obscure characters that are already encoded in Unicode v. 4. I have tried AsiaFont Studio 4 and FontLab, but they are not compatible with version

W3C I18N rechartering: input invited

2004-07-15 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
Dear Unicoders: The W3C Internationalization Activity is preparing new Working Group charters in order to continue and extend its activities. The goal of the W3C in this area, according to the current activity statement, is: to propose and coordinate the adoption by the W3C of techniques,

Re: Unicode v. 4 font software for Mac

2004-07-15 Thread John H. Jenkins
Jul 15, 2004 12:13 PM David Branner I have tried AsiaFont Studio 4 and FontLab, but they are not compatible with version 4 of the Unicode Standard and hence are not suitable for my purposes. I assume that by saying they're not compatible, you mean that they don't support characters off of the

Re: Unicode v. 4 font software for Mac

2004-07-15 Thread David Branner
: :I assume that by saying they're not compatible, you mean that they : :don't support characters off of the BMP. They can neither generate such characters nor (apparently) open fonts that contain such characters. ~~

Re: Unicode v. 4 font software for Mac

2004-07-15 Thread John H. Jenkins
Jul 15, 2004 2:54 PM David Branner : :I assume that by saying they're not compatible, you mean that they : :don't support characters off of the BMP. They can neither generate such characters nor (apparently) open fonts that contain such characters. Then move the non-BMP characters to

Unicode Technical Report #23 Published

2004-07-15 Thread Rick McGowan
The Unicode Technical Committee has published a new Technical Report: UTR #23 The Unicode Character Property Model This technical report covers a conceptual model of character properties defined in the Unicode Standard. The report can be obtained at the following URL:

Announcement: Unicode Technical Note #15

2004-07-15 Thread Rick McGowan
The Unicode Consortium announces the availability of a new Unicode Technical Note: Unicode Technical Note #15 Text Conversion from TSCII 1.7 to Unicode by Muthu Nedumaran http://www.unicode.org/notes/tn15/ Summary: This document is written to assist with the conversion of TSCII encoded Tamil

Save with early registration-26th Unicode Conference - Sept 7-10, 2004 - San Jose, CA

2004-07-15 Thread Tex Texin
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