2004-07-14T19:20:35+03:00 Peter Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>For in Russian these dots are considered highly optional, and >>>e with dots (pronounced o or yo - a spelling rule prescribes this >>>instead of o after certain letters when stressed) is not a separate >>>letter of the alphabet (contrast i kratkoe, Cyrillic i with breve, which >>>is a fully separate letter from i). >>> >> >>That’s wrong, Peter. The letter «ё» is a separate letter. Please don’t >>spread your wrong assumptions in the list. >> > I meant this in the sense that the two letters are interfiled in > dictionaries, e.g.
> елейный > ёлка > еловый > ёлочный > ель > At least this is the ordering in my Collins Russian dictionary, and I > understand it to be the standard Russian ordering. Am I wrong here? Not at all, though different dictionaries use different approaches. The practice of filing «е*» and «ё*» entries under one section is quite common, it however doesn’t imply that one of these letters is not a separate letter. There are two reasons for this kind of ordering: 1. The words with the letter «ё» are almost always written with «е» so readers will tend to mix them. 2. The aren’t many words with initial «ё», so it's safe to file all the «ё*» entries along with «е*». > By contrast, и and й are not interfiled. I can’t see why you put these as an example. They are completely different letters (vowel and consonant), notwithstanding their similar look. One of my dictionaries have a section called «Ъ-Ь» which obviously means that the entries cover the letters «ъ», «ы», and «ь». Unlike «Е, Ё» section the entries are sorted alphabetically. Just like «е» and «ё» all of these letters are meant to be separate. Alexander -- Alexander Savenkov http://www.xmlhack.ru/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xmlhack.ru/authors/croll/
