Re: searching for PUA characters

2011-08-26 Thread Robert Abel
Hi Lorna, On 2011/08/25 22:17, Lorna Priest wrote: > I suppose what I'd like is to be able to identify beginning and ending > codepoints to search for, such as "F130..F32F" or something along that > line. You could use jEdit to search within a directory for "\p{Co}". This would match ranges \uE0

PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/8/26 : > The Unicode Technical Committee has posted a new issue for public review and > comment. Details are on the following web page: > >    http://www.unicode.org/review/pri202/ > > Review periods for the new items close on October 24, 2011. > > Please see the page for links to discussion

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Ken Whistler
On 8/26/2011 3:13 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: Isn't there an intersection between NameAliases.txt proposed in PRI202, and the informational table defined for UTR #25 at http://www.unicode.org/Public/math/revision-12/MathClassEx-12.txt which also lists other name aliases for other standards ? No.

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/8/27 Ken Whistler : > On 8/26/2011 3:13 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: >> >> Isn't there an intersection between NameAliases.txt proposed in >> PRI202, and the informational table defined for UTR #25 at >> http://www.unicode.org/Public/math/revision-12/MathClassEx-12.txt >> which also lists other n

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Ken Whistler
On 8/26/2011 5:01 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: "we could as well include..." are dangerous words here. Going encyclopedic > is*completely* at odds with the normative intention of NameAliases.txt. Your statement then contradicts what PRI 202 says: "the intent is to add various standard and de fact

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Benjamin M Scarborough
Are name aliases exempted from the normal character naming conventions? I ask because four of the entries have words that begin with numbers. 008E;SINGLE-SHIFT 2;control 008F;SINGLE-SHIFT 3;control 0091;PRIVATE USE 1;control 0092;PRIVATE USE 2;control —Ben Scarborough

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Asmus Freytag
I agree with Ken that Phillipe's suggestion of conflating the annotations for mathematical use with formal Unicode name aliases is a non-starter. The former exist to help mathematicians identify symbols in Unicode, when they know their name from entity lists. The latter are designed to allow pr

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/8/27 Asmus Freytag : > I agree with Ken that Phillipe's suggestion of conflating the annotations > for mathematical use with formal Unicode name aliases is a non-starter. Yes but why then adding ISO 6429 alias names ? What makes ISO 6429 a better choice than another ISO standard, that you wan

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Philippe Verdy
2011/8/27 Ken Whistler : >> Was there such formal request from the ISO standard maintainers, and >> an agreed policy ? > > It has nothing to do with ISO standard maintainers. > > And yes, there was a formal request to do something about this problem, > but it came from one of the maintainers of Per

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 8/26/2011 10:09 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: 2011/8/27 Asmus Freytag: I agree with Ken that Phillipe's suggestion of conflating the annotations for mathematical use with formal Unicode name aliases is a non-starter. Yes but why then adding ISO 6429 alias names ? What makes ISO 6429 a better cho

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 8/26/2011 7:52 PM, Benjamin M Scarborough wrote: Are name aliases exempted from the normal character naming conventions? I ask because four of the entries have words that begin with numbers. 008E;SINGLE-SHIFT 2;control 008F;SINGLE-SHIFT 3;control 0091;PRIVATE USE 1;control 0092;PRIVATE USE 2

Re: PRI #202: Extensions to NameAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.0

2011-08-26 Thread Petr Tomasek
> It would have the advantage of suppressing those names from the > proposed table for UTR #25 (characters used in Mathematical > notations). > > In the merged name aliases table, we could as well include : > - SGML/HTML/XML character entity names (and some standardized synonyms) ? HTML character