Re: German »Raute« (was: U+25CA LOZENGE)

2012-08-14 Thread Steven Atreju
Hi all, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr wrote: |2012/8/13 Otto Stolz otto.st...@uni-konstanz.de: | Hello, | | am 2012-08-13 20:48, schrieb Leif Halvard Silli: | | The word 'Raute' reminds of the Norwegian 'rute' - and my Norwegian | book on etymology assumes that 'rute' is derived from

Re: U+25CA LOZENGE - why is it in the Mac OS Roman character set (and therefore widespread in current fonts)?

2012-08-14 Thread Karl Pentzlin
Am Montag, 13. August 2012 um 20:53 schrieb Hans Aberg: HA The German WP mentions that in the context of the now HA discontinued Bildschirmtext, it was called Raute: HA https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelkreuz_(Satzzeichen) HA https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildschirmtext HA But otherwise,

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Andreas Prilop
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, Otto Stolz wrote: http://www.machsmit.de/media/mainteaser/header-ichwillserleben.png http://www.machsmit.de/kampagne/printmedien.php show what the braindead German DIN keyboard layout has done to the apostrophe (’): Killed by the acute accent (´). Andreas’ example does

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Robert Wheelock
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Andreas Prilop prilop4...@trashmail.netwrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, Otto Stolz wrote: http://www.machsmit.de/media/mainteaser/header-ichwillserleben.png http://www.machsmit.de/kampagne/printmedien.php show what the braindead German DIN keyboard layout has

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Robert Wheelock
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Andreas Prilop prilop4...@trashmail.netwrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, Otto Stolz wrote: http://www.machsmit.de/media/mainteaser/header-ichwillserleben.png

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Robert Wheelock
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Andreas Prilop prilop4...@trashmail.net wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, Otto Stolz wrote:

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-08-14 22:56, Robert Wheelock wrote: The _tonos_ (overtick) is a STRAIGHT 90º accent mark, whereas the _oxeia_ (acute) is usually slanted at 45º. It is somewhat tragicomic that you make the mistake of using masculine ordinal indicator U+00BA in place of the degree sign U+00B0, when

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 03:56:23PM -0400, Robert Wheelock wrote: ... 90º ... 45º BTW, the degree sign is ° not the masculine ordinal indicator that you are using. Regards, Khaled

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard (was: U+25CA LOZENGE)

2012-08-14 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:00:21 +0200, Otto Stolz a scris: DIN 2137 (from 1976) is for computers: These keyboards always had both the acute, and grave, accents, and the (ASCII) apostrophe. Yes, but they are defined as dead keys. I have a copy of the DIN 2137-2:2003-09 where at page 8

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Michael Everson
On 14 Aug 2012, at 21:52, Khaled Hosny wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 03:56:23PM -0400, Robert Wheelock wrote: ... 90º ... 45º BTW, the degree sign is ° not the masculine ordinal indicator that you are using. :-) Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Karl Pentzlin
Am Montag, 13. August 2012 um 22:00 schrieb Otto Stolz: OS am 2012-08-13 18:09, schrieb Andreas Prilop: ... show what the braindead German DIN keyboard layout has done to the apostrophe (’): Killed by the acute accent (´). OS DIN 2112 (from 1928) for mechanical typewriters had indeed no OS

Re: Apostrophe, and DIN keyboard

2012-08-14 Thread Philippe Verdy
This is not dramatic. French keyboards have a standard degree symbol on them, Spanish keyboards have the masculine ordinal. This character is often confused, just like notations of degrees/minutes/seconds using ASCII quotation marks instead of prime symbols. In an email not intended to be

Fwd: U+25CA LOZENGE - why is it in the Mac OS Roman character set (and therefore widespread in current fonts)?

2012-08-14 Thread Robert Wheelock
-- Forwarded message -- From: Karl Pentzlin karl-pentz...@acssoft.de Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:04 PM Subject: Re: U+25CA LOZENGE - why is it in the Mac OS Roman character set (and therefore widespread in current fonts)? To: Robert Wheelock rwhlk...@gmail.com Dear Robert, you