Re: German »ß«

2013-02-18 Thread Asmus Freytag
Nice collection of links, here, Neil. A./ On 2/17/2013 10:52 AM, Neil Harris wrote: On 17/02/13 10:48, Philippe Verdy wrote: I was not citing empirical results but things that are regulated by legislation. And your existing empirical results are just nfomal tests ignoring important parts of

Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread William_J_G Overington
Earlier today I posted in a forum, mentioning the Private Use Areas. I referenced section 16.5 of the following document. http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.2.0/ch16.pdf I felt that I needed to write as follows, in order to provide clarity. quote There is a lot about what is called

RE: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Erkki I Kolehmainen
This looks quite clear to me. If I create something and somebody else uses my creation in the intended context, he agrees to my definition. his agreement is private, outside the standard, since the same code points may represent a multitude of different meanings. It may also be the result of a

Re: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Erkki I Kolehmainen e...@iki.fi wrote: It may also be the result of a negotiating process within a special purpose user group. I also see no problem with the current definition. Since the whole point of the standard is to ease the exchange of text if a

Re: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2013-02-18 17:36, Shriramana Sharma wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Erkki I Kolehmainen e...@iki.fi wrote: It may also be the result of a negotiating process within a special purpose user group. I also see no problem with the current definition. Since the whole point of the standard

Re: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread William_J_G Overington
The first sentence of section 16.5 is as follows. quote Private-use characters are assigned Unicode code points whose interpretation is not specified by this standard and whose use may be determined by private agreement among cooperating users. end quote Suppose that there is a person,

Re: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 2/18/2013 5:43 AM, Erkki I Kolehmainen wrote: This looks quite clear to me. If I create something and somebody else uses my creation in the intended context, he agrees to my definition. his agreement is private, outside the standard, since the same code points may represent a multitude of

Re: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Neil Harris
On 18/02/13 18:09, William_J_G Overington wrote: The first sentence of section 16.5 is as follows. quote Private-use characters are assigned Unicode code points whose interpretation is not specified by this standard and whose use may be determined by private agreement among cooperating

RE: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Doug Ewell
Asmus Freytag asmusf at ix dot netcom dot com wrote: Note that the default treatment for sorting, captilization, and a host of other functions is not going to work for you or most users, for that matter, because, unlike the case of fonts, there's no widely supported data format for submitting

Re: New Canonical Decompositions to Non-Starters

2013-02-18 Thread Richard Wordingham
Someone asked off-list if this query were related to a proposal. It is, to Markus Scherer's L2/12-108. That has been added to the the list of 'stability' guarantees at http://www.unicode.org/policies/stability_policy.html 'Property Value Stability', Version 2.1.0+. The redundantly retroactive

Re: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:34:27 +0200 Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote: Perhaps something like the following might be a useful addition (e.g., as second paragraph of subsection 16.5): A private agreement that constitutes some meaning and use for a code point may be explicit, as a

RE: New Canonical Decompositions to Non-Starters

2013-02-18 Thread Whistler, Ken
Well, it isn't prohibited, so I guess you will need to be forever vigilant in view of the possibility that somebody might get it in their head to encode some combining mark that isn't already accounted for in Tibetan *and* that they would simultaneously insist that a precomposed form of that

Re: Private Use Area

2013-02-18 Thread Leslie Turriff
On Monday 18 February 2013 07:43:00 Erkki I Kolehmainen wrote: This looks quite clear to me. If I create something and somebody else uses my creation in the intended context, he agrees to my definition. his agreement is private, outside the standard, since the same code points may represent a

Re: German »ß«

2013-02-18 Thread Charlie Ruland
Ne vous moquez pas de monsieur Verdy: il s’ agit là du dernier des Mohicans polymathes ! ☺ Charlie Op zondag 17 februari 2013 schreef Asmus Freytag: Would not be the first time that Mr. Verdy's statements are in an interesting relation to empirically determined results. :) A./

Re: German »ß«

2013-02-18 Thread Asmus Freytag
Toll, eine dreisprachige Nachricht! Wer macht weiter? A./ On 2/18/2013 10:25 PM, Charlie Ruland wrote: Ne vous moquez pas de monsieur Verdy: il s’ agit là du dernier des Mohicans polymathes ! ☺ Charlie Op zondag 17 februari 2013 schreef Asmus Freytag: Would not be the first time that Mr.

Re: German »ß«

2013-02-18 Thread Charlie Ruland
Trilingue sì. Perché la lingua madre del signor Verdy è quella francese. And it was in reply to your English message. En het Nederlands kwam van Thunderbird. Tja, so kann’s gehen. 对不起。 Charlie Asmus Freytag: Toll, eine dreisprachige Nachricht! Wer macht weiter? A./ On 2/18/2013 10:25 PM,