Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Eric Muller
On 12/10/2015 2:45 AM, Frédéric Grosshans wrote: Le 10/12/2015 05:32, Martin J. Dürst a écrit : A similar example is the use of accents on upper-case letters in French in France where 'officially', upper-case letters are written without accents. Actually, the official body in charge of this (Ac

In Memoriam--Michael Kaplan

2015-12-10 Thread Lisa Moore
As was announced earlier on Unicode email lists, the many people associated with the Unicode Consortium were much saddened to hear of the passing of Michael Kaplan. Please find this posting on our website at: http://www.unicode.org/consortium/memoriam.html#Michael_S_Kaplan Lisa

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Leo Broukhis
This prompts a question: for case conversion bijectivity in fr_FR locale, should there be "invisible accents"? E.g. déjà -> DE(combining invisible acute accent)JA(combining invisible grave accent) -> déjà whereas in fr_CA locale, it is simply déjà -> DÉJÀ -> déjà Leo On Wed, Dec 9, 2015

Re: Hentaigana proposal

2015-12-10 Thread Markus Scherer
Dear Mr. Tranter, I can't tell whether you intend to start a discussion on this discussion mailing list, or intend to submit feedback on a proposal. Maybe you are looking for discussion before you formalize your feedback. If you do intend to submit feedback, then, once you have formulated a posit

Re: Aw: Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
Bing is pathetic. It treats the letter as if it didn't exist Google maps it to the lowercase, neither allows you to find sites that use just that character. A./

Re: Aw: Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Asmus Freytag (t)
On 12/9/2015 11:57 PM, "Jörg Knappen" wrote: Since the captial sharp s is easily available to the public, I see it popping up everywhere in German publications, mostly in an all caps environment. I have a small c

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Philippe Verdy
2015-12-10 5:32 GMT+01:00 Martin J. Dürst : > This is an interesting example of a phenomenon that turns up in many other > contexts, too. A similar example is the use of accents on upper-case > letters in French in France where 'officially', upper-case letters are > written without accents. When w

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Marcel Schneider
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:45:22 +0100, Frédéric Grosshans wrote: >Le 10/12/2015 05:32, Martin J. Dürst a écrit : >> A similar example is the use of accents on upper-case letters in >> French in France where 'officially', upper-case letters are written >> without accents. We are welcome to look up

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Gerrit Ansmann
On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:19:36 +0100, Hans Meiser wrote: After all, the "ß" is just a ligature of "ss" (or, to be precise: a ligature of "sz", originating from old German fonts - see hyperlink below), so I suggest the rendered outcome of the capital "ß" to be just the same: A ligature of two ca

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le 10/12/2015 05:32, Martin J. Dürst a écrit : A similar example is the use of accents on upper-case letters in French in France where 'officially', upper-case letters are written without accents. Actually, the official body in charge of this (Académie Française) has always recommended upper-ca

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Hans Meiser
After all, the "ß" is just a ligature of "ss" (or, to be precise: a ligature of "sz", originating from old German fonts - see hyperlink below), so I suggest the rendered outcome of the capital "ß" to be just the same: A ligature of two capital "S". Here's a hyperlink to an old German font (noti

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Hans Meiser
Actually, MS Word offers an option to keep or drop accents when converting lower case to upper case in its spell checker options. I comprehend to the Turkish translation. They've got two different letter "i", one with and one without the dot ("ı"). But that's all not pointing to the direction of

Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Hello Marc, On 2015/12/10 14:35, Marc Blanchet wrote: This is an interesting example of a phenomenon that turns up in many other contexts, too. A similar example is the use of accents on upper-case letters in French in France where 'officially', upper-case letters are written without accents.

Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Andreas Stötzner
Am 10.12.2015 um 08:57 schrieb Jörg Knappen: > The use of the capital sharp s in German is not only a historical artefact, > it is recent and modern. some illustrations for that: https://www.facebook.com/versaleszett/?fref=ts Mit freundlichen Grüßen – Andreas Stötzne

Aw: Re: Proposal for German capital letter "ß"

2015-12-10 Thread Jörg Knappen
Since the captial sharp s is easily available to the public, I see it popping up everywhere in German publications, mostly in an all caps environment. I have a small collection of it (on paper).   The use of the capital sharp s in German is not only a historical artefact, it is recent and moder