Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread James Kass via Unicode
David Starner wrote, > Can some books be mostly handled with Unicode plain text > and italics? Sure. HTML can handle them quite nicely. ... Yes, many books can be handled very well with HTML using simple mark-up.  If I were producing a computer file to reproduce an old fiction novel, that's

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 1/8/2019 10:58 PM, James Kass via Unicode wrote: If a text is published in all italics, that’s style/font choice.  If a text is published using italics and roman contrastively and consistently, and everybody else is doing it pretty much the same

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Ken Whistler wrote, > It isn't the job of the Unicode Consortium or the Unicode Standard > to sort that stuff out or to standardize characters to represent it. Agreed, it isn’t. > When somebody brings to the UTC written examples of established > orthographies using character conventions that

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread David Starner via Unicode
On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 2:03 AM James Kass via Unicode wrote: > The boundaries of plain text have advanced since the concept originated > and will probably continue to do so. Stress can currently be > represented in plain text with conventions used in lieu of existing > typographic practice. Uni

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
James, On 1/8/2019 1:11 PM, James Kass via Unicode wrote: But we're still using typewriter kludges to represent stress in Latin script because there is no Unicode plain text solution. O.k., that one needs a response. We are still using kludges to represent stress in the Latin script because

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 1/8/2019 1:11 PM, James Kass via Unicode wrote: Asmus Freytag wrote, > ... > (for an extreme example there's an orthography > out there that uses @ as a letter -- we know that > won't work well wit

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Asmus Freytag wrote, > ... > (for an extreme example there's an orthography > out there that uses @ as a letter -- we know that > won't work well with email addresses and duplicate > encoding of the @ shape is a complete non-starter). Everything's a non-starter.  Until it begins. Is this a cas

Re: A last missing link for interoperable representation

2019-01-08 Thread James Kass via Unicode
Marcel Schneider wrote, > With rich text we need to stay in rich text, whereas the goal of > this thread is to point ways of ensuring interoperability. Both interoperability and legibility are factors.  The question might be:  How legible should Unicode be for Latin—barely legible, moderately