Re: unicode Digest V12 #108

2011-07-03 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 20:56, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > > > I may have missed some parts of the discussion, but I don’t see why you > couldn’t just use the zero-width non-joiner. Using it may cause risks of its > own, but at least you would be dealing with risks related to the original > problem.

Re: Are Latin and Cyrillic essentially the same script?

2010-11-17 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
AFAIR the reservations of WG2 concerning the encoding of Jangalif Latin Ь/ь as a new character were not in view of Cyrillic Ь/ь, but rather in view of its potential identity with the tone sign mentioned by you as well. It is a Latin letter adapted from the Cyrillic soft sign, like the Jangalif char

Re: Solved (was: [OT]: a strange language name abbreviation)

2010-09-18 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Given the complete parallels heard here earlier, shouldn't it really be Crimean Gothic? 2010/9/16 Janusz S. Bień > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) wrote: > > > Thanks for all the comments. > > > > For the time being the puzzle remains unsolved. Perhaps in the future >

Re: How to encode reversed section sign?

2010-08-06 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
I have indicated already in my first mail that having those characters in his typecase might mean something. However I'd be wary to encode a character based on a single usage which does not even make a distinction to the ordinary section sign. Nonetheless, it seems quite probable that other docume

Fwd: How to encode reversed section sign?

2010-08-06 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Please see Janusz' answers. (He pressed "reply" instead of "reply all", I suppose). /Sz Begin forwarded message: From: jsb...@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień) Date: 2010. augusztus 6. 14:50:58 GMT+02:00 To: André Szabolcs Szelp Subject: Re: How to encode reversed se

Re: CSUR Tonal

2010-08-06 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
> Looking at the examples shown on > , it seems to me that > 0-8 are ordinary digits, and the symbols for 9 through 15 are inverted > or inverted+modified forms of the digits '7' through '1', so that > there is some sort of imperfect bilateral symmetry

Re: How to encode reversed section sign?

2010-08-06 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Hi, Janusz, it would be valueable information whether the reversed section sign encodes any other semantic than the normal one. It would help looking at the "key" of the dictionary which explains symbols and their usage, as it might well be, that the typesetter ran out of normal section signs co

Re: Dialects and orthographies in BCP 47 (was: Re: Draft ProposalDA to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-04 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
"will decide to reunite their cultural efforts [...] and increasing their mutual cultural exchanges instead of wasting them for old nationalist reasons" You're either an utmost optimist, or you have really no idea of Eastern European history, culture and "spirit". :-) I doubt your described scena

Re: long s (was: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-04 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
For the "standard form" you probably don't need to add a variation selector. The codepoint for long s itself expresses exactly the semantic to represent this character as long s in ANY type style. While I'm not convinced of your variation proposal at all (on the contrary), if you write it, write i

Re: Why not just change the glyph of 20A8 RUPEE SIGN?

2010-07-30 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Actually, while it's quite probable that the sign won't be used by any other currency, I believe there would be no way to prevent that. Cf. the usage of $ all over the world. I believe, other nations using a rupee _could_ adopt it. Having all that said, I don't believe though, as all recent movemen

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-29 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
2010/7/28 Asmus Freytag > On 7/28/2010 9:30 AM, André Szabolcs Szelp wrote: > >> You really all say, that general property Sk (DOT ABOVE) rather than Po >> (FULL STOP, COMMA, MIDDLE DOT) (compared with all other decimal point >> characters) can not cause any problems ev

Re: Pashto yeh characters

2010-07-29 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Murray Sargent < murr...@exchange.microsoft.com> wrote: Andreas Prilop commented "A native speaker of English does not /automatically/ know better about English grammar, English punctuation than an informed Frenchman." So true, so true. Most native speakers of Engli

Re: Pashto yeh characters

2010-07-29 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
"Persian and Urdu write [g] using a kaf character with a line above U+06AF, while Pashto uses kaf with a ring U+06AB. It really should be that simple." I seem to remember, that Persian used kaf with three dots above (like your Moroccan example) at least in the 19th century. No idea when they switc

Re: High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-28 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
You really all say, that general property Sk (DOT ABOVE) rather than Po (FULL STOP, COMMA, MIDDLE DOT) (compared with all other decimal point characters) can not cause any problems ever in certain algorithms? Szabolcs

High dot/dot above punctuation?

2010-07-28 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Dear Colleagues, In processing a document, I came across a punctuation character which I was not able to find in Unicode. As I find it hard to believe that the character has not been encoded yet, I must think my search was incomplete, and I'd be hoping that you can point me to the correct

Re: Refining the idea for the SignWriting proposal

2010-06-16 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Stephen, why does the base character in the second example have a different "default" fill? Even if that would happen to be the most common version, I think you should have a consistent base-fill and fill modifiers which does not depend on an implied base fill. /Szabolcs On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at

Re: Writing a proposal for an unusual script: SignWriting

2010-06-14 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
On 2010.06.14., at 22:18, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: SignWriting has the unusual requirement of a 2 color font. One font color for the line of the symbols and another for the fill. The fill is needed when symbols overlap. Hmm. AFAIK, Unicode can't do color. I remember someone mentioning that

Re: Writing a proposal for an unusual script: SignWriting

2010-06-14 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
On 2010.06.14., at 18:21, Stephen Slevinski wrote: We've had large discussions about spelling on the SignWriting list. Someone will write a sign and others will comment. People will try to rewrite the sign to be easier to read. It's amazing what a difference a small adjustment in symbol

Re: Hexadecimal digits

2010-06-07 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
One mentioned 0123456789ABCDEF, and the fact that one has software already which does sums in this hexadecimal notation. That works for software, but not so much for human communication. The main obstacle to use hexadecimal in human communication are not the symbols used in its notati

Re: Hexadecimal digits

2010-06-07 Thread André Szabolcs Szelp
Now if I were using the a-f notation, she would be (reasonably) confused as to why *some* numbers are unique, but *other* numbers are also letters. You greatly underestimate the abilities of children. This sentence of yours is especially (reasonably) confusing, given that yourself attest