Re: Proposing mostly invisible characters

, that there are instances where this is not desired. Am 13. Sep. 2019, 07:59, um 07:59, Henri Sivonen via Unicode schrieb: >On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 15:53 Christoph Päper via Unicode > >wrote: > >> ISHY/SIHY is especially useful for encoding (German) noun compounds >in >&g

Proposing mostly invisible characters

Dear Unicoders There are some characters that have no precedent in existing encodings and are also hard to attest directly from printed sources. Can one still make a solid case for encoding those in Unicode? I am thinking of characters that are either invisible (most of the time) or can becom

Re: The encoding of the Welsh flag

Mark Davis ☕️: > > We have gotten requests for this, but the stumbling block is the lack of an > official N. Ireland document describing what the official flag is and > should look like. Such documents are lacking for several of the RIS flag emojis as well, though, e.g. for 🇺🇲 from ISO 3166-1 co

Re: Shortcuts question

Shriramana Sharma: > > 1) Are shortcuts like Ctrl+C changed as per locale? I mean Ctrl+T for > "tout" io Ctrl+A for "all"? Some are, many are not. For instance, some text editors use a modifier key with F and K instead of B and I for bold ("fett") and italic ("kursiv"). > 2) How about when the

Re: Diacritic marks in parentheses

Arthur Reutenauer: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 03:41:47PM -0700, Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode wrote: > >> Ein⁽ᵉ⁾ A⁽¨⁾rzt⁽ⁱⁿ⁾ hat eine⁽ⁿ⁾ Studenti⁽ᵉ⁾n gesehen. > > “eine⁽ⁿ⁾ Student⁽ⁱ´ᵉ⁾ⁿ gesehen”. I certainly would not advocate to go to such extremes. My issue was with putting parentheses at the

Diacritic marks in parentheses

German umlauts often occur when a noun is plural or an agens noun is female, e.g. _Arzt_ '(male) physician', _Ärzte_ 'physicians' and _Ärztin_ 'female physician'. There are several cases where a short notation for both singular and plural or, more frequently, male and female singular are desired

Re: Major vendors changing U+1F52B PISTOL 🔫 depiction from firearm to squirt gun

Abe Voelker: > > I'm curious if there has been any discussion on all the major vendors > changing this emoji's depiction? ( > https://blog.emojipedia.org/all-major-vendors-commit-to-gun-redesign/) Curiously, this happened right before UTC 155 in a possibly concerted (but at least not independent

Re: Submissions open for 2020 Emoji

Mark Davis: > > In some cases we've have contacted people to see if they want to engage > with other proposers. But to handle larger numbers we'd need a simple, > light-weight way to let people know, while maintaining people's privacy > when they want it. Collaborative editing of (proposal) docum

Re: Submissions open for 2020 Emoji

announceme...@unicode.org: > > The emoji subcommittee has also produced a new page which shows the > Emoji Requests > submitted so far. You can look at what other people have proposed or > suggested. In many cases, people have made suggestions,

RE: Full Emoji List Chart No Longer Displaying Emoji with Skin-tones

Ed Borgquist: > > Thanks for the information. Does Unicode make public the source images > received from vendors? Or, is there somewhere else you would recommend for me > to look? Besides Emojipedia.org, you will find most current sets at and many old set

RE: Unicode Emoji 11.0 characters now ready for adoption!

F'up2: cldr-us...@unicode.org Doug Ewell via unicode@unicode.org: > > I think that is a measurement of locale coverage -- whether the > collation tables and translations of "a.m." and "p.m." and "a week ago > Thursday" are correct and verified -- not character coverage. By the way, the binary `a

Re: Unicode Emoji 11.0 characters now ready for adoption!

announceme...@unicode.org: > > The 157 new Emoji are now available for adoption > , But Unicode 11.0 (which all new emojis but Pirate Flag and Infinity rely upon) is not even in beta yet.

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

Philippe Verdy: > > I even hope that there will be a setting in all browsers, OS'es, mobiles, > and apps to refuse any colorful rendering, and just render them as > monochromatic symbols. In summary, COMPLETETY DISABLE the colorful > extensions of OpenType made for them. See

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

Michael Everson: > Why on earth would they use Ch and Sh when 1) C isn’t used by itself > and 2) if you’re using Ǵǵ you may as well use Çç Şş. I would have argued in favor of digraphs for G' and N' as well if there already was a decision for Ch and Sh. Many European orthographies use the digr

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

Apparently the presidential decree prescribing the new Kazakh Latin orthography and alphabet has been amended recently. The change completely dumps the previous approach of digraphs with an apostrophe in second position in favor of an acute diacritic mark above the base letters for vowels Á/á, Í

Re: Why so much emoji nonsense?

James Kass: > Asmus Freytag wrote: > >>> Words suffice. We go by what people actually say rather than whatever >>> they might have meant. When we read text, we go by what's written. > >> That is a worthy opinion, but not one that is shared, either in principle >> or in lived practice (...) by va

Re: Why so much emoji nonsense?

James Kass via Unicode : > Martin J. Dürst > >> The original Japanese cell phone carrier emoji where defined in the >> unassigned area of Shift_JIS, not Unicode. > > Thank you (and another list member) for reminding that it was > originally hacked SJIS rather than proper PUA Unicode. Japanese te

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

James Kass: > > (bottle, east,skier, crucial,cherry) > s'i's'a, s'yg'ys, s'an'g'ys'y, s'es'u's'i, s'i'i'e > sxixsxa, sxygxys, sxanxgxysxy, sxesxuxsxi, sxixixe > s̈ïs̈a,s̈yg̈ys, s̈an̈g̈ys̈y, s̈es̈üs̈i, s̈ïïe > śíśa,śyǵys, śańǵyśy, śeśúśi, s

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

Asmus Freytag: > > Saturn, with its rings (even though it's no longer the only one known > with rings) also is iconic and highly recognizable. I lack imagination > as to when someone would want to use it in communication, but I have the > same issue with quite a few recent emoji, some of which

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

James Kass via Unicode : > > It will probably be the ASCII apostrophe. The stated intent favors > the apostrophe over diacritics or special characters to ensure that > the language can be input to computers with standard keyboards. Yes, this can only mean U+0027, but apparently official material

Re: Emoji’s

jillian mestel: > > I was very disappointed to learn that there are no emojis of portraying a > dominant left hand. See for the general emoji proposal process. This would actually not need a new character being assigned a code point, because existing 🖎

Include emoticons in CLDR character annotation?

The CLDR Survey Tool is currently open to, among other things, collect improvements to (emoji) character names and keywords. I don't see it being done for any language yet, but wouldn't it make sense to add classic emoticons (like :-) for various smiling emojis), kaomoji (like o/ for Person Rais

Re: Version linking?

Mark Davis ☕️: > > E5.0 did have the emoji properties of some 10.0 characters a bit ahead of > time, but only after they were completely locked down. This should be absolutely avoided in the future, because it was effectively the other way around: No changes to the beta characters were possible

Re: Turtle Graphics Emoji

Shriramana Sharma via Unicode: > > for animal in animalKingdom: createEmojiProposal(animal) > > Emoji are a veritable Pandora box. It makes sense to look at where (animal) emojis came from and then decide how this might need to be expanded to avoid cultural bias etc. A large bunch of the orig

Re: First bonafide use (≠ mention) of emoji by an academic publisher?

Leonardo Boiko: > > It would just be more > satisfying for me if the blue books were encoded in the font as U+1F4D8s, > rather than U+F02Ds. Or, if the colors are done at a CSS level, as 📕 > U+1F4D5 CLOSED BOOKs or the like. Same goes for the other icons in FA > which *do *have an emoji counter

Emoji Space

As you may know, the combined original Japanese emoji set included three whitespace characters: one was the full width of a (square) emoji, one was half that and the last one was a quarter blank. Their KDDI Shift-JIS codes were F7A9, F7AA and F7AB, respectively, and their internal numeric IDs we

Re: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S officially recognized

Letters in some scripts are a class of two or more characters. Usually, all letters have the same number of such case variants. Rarely, characters may be constituents of different letters within the same script. A closed set of letters, usually with a canonical sort order, makes an alphabet. Eve

Re: The management of the encoding process of emoji

William_J_G Overington: > > http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17192-response-cmts.pdf > http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2017/17147-emoji-subcommittee.pdf > >> Two key issues are whether the characters are likely to be popular >> and whether they would be supported by major vendors. > > I am rather con

Extended_Pictographic in Unicode Utilities

Maybe I just need to be a patient a bit longer, but maybe I'm missing something: Since CLDR and ICU have been updated recently and the Extended_Pictographic codepoint property has been added, shouldn't it be accessible within Unicode Utilities: UnicodeSet?