Re: comma ellipses

2019-10-06 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
It’s deliberately incorrect for humorous effect. It gets used, but making it “official” would almost defeat the purpose. On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 5:02 PM Asmus Freytag via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > On 10/6/2019 4:05 PM, Tex via Unicode wrote: > > Now that comma ellipses (,,,) are a th

Re: Encoding italic

2019-01-24 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 1:27 AM James Kass via Unicode wrote: > > Nobody has really addressed Andrew West's suggestion about using the tag > characters. > > It seems conformant, unobtrusive, requiring no official sanction, and > could be supported by third-partiers in the absence of corporate > i

Re: Encoding italic (was: A last missing link)

2019-01-20 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
I think the real solution is for Twitter to just implement basic styling and make this a moot point. On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 2:37 AM Andrew West via Unicode wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 at 03:16, James Kass via Unicode > wrote: > > > > Possible approaches include: > > > > 3 - Open/Close punctua

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-28 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 2:34 AM arno.schmitt via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > Am 28.10.2018 um 09:13 schrieb Richard Wordingham via Unicode: > > The notation is a quite widespread format for abbreviations. the > > first letter is normal sized, and the subsequent letter is written in >

Re: A sign/abbreviation for "magister"

2018-10-27 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
I learned that one as a kid, as the "pigpen cipher". I'm not aware of any numerological significance (which is easy enough to "find" in anything). On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:43 PM Philippe Verdy via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > More interesting: the Masonic alphabet > http://tallermason

Re: preliminary proposal: New Unicode characters for Arabic music half-flat and half-sharp symbols

2018-05-27 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Hans Åberg wrote: > The flats and sharps of Arabic music are semantically the same as in > Western music, departing from Pythagorean tuning, then, but the microtonal > accidentals are different: they simply reused some that were available. But they aren't differ

Re: preliminary proposal: New Unicode characters for Arabic music half-flat and half-sharp symbols

2018-05-27 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
ut actually > encoding any specific tone, or rythmic). > > > 2018-05-17 17:48 GMT+02:00 Hans Åberg via Unicode : > >> >> >> > On 17 May 2018, at 16:47, Garth Wallace via Unicode < >> unicode@unicode.org> wrote: >> > >> > On Th

Re: preliminary proposal: New Unicode characters for Arabic music half-flat and half-sharp symbols

2018-05-17 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 17 May 2018, at 08:47, Garth Wallace via Unicode > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Hans Åberg via Unicode < > unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > >> > >> It woul

Re: preliminary proposal: New Unicode characters for Arabic music half-flat and half-sharp symbols

2018-05-16 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:42 AM, Hans Åberg via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > > On 16 May 2018, at 00:48, Ken Whistler via Unicode > wrote: > > > > On 5/15/2018 2:46 PM, Markus Scherer via Unicode wrote: > >> I am proposing the addition of 2 new characters to the Musical Symbols > ta

Re: preliminary proposal: New Unicode characters for Arabic music half-flat and half-sharp symbols

2018-05-15 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
What happened to the previous proposal? As I recall, there was some good discussion after an email from you back in 2015 < http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2015-m03/0118.html> and Michael Everson offered assistance, but no formal proposal has been submitted to the Documents Register sin

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-02-20 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
AIUI "doesn't look like Turkish" was one of the design criteria, for political reasons. On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:07 PM Michael Everson via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > Not using Turkic letters is daft, particularly as there was a widely-used > transliteration in Kazakhstan anyway. And

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-12 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:15 AM, Kent Karlsson wrote: > > Den 2017-04-12 05:14, skrev "Garth Wallace" : > > One salient feature the Block Elements have that the Box Drawing > characters do not: distinct LEFT and RIGHT verticals, and LOWER and UPPER > horizontals

Re: Xiangqi Game Symbols (was Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation)

2017-04-12 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:13 AM Andrew West wrote: > On 12 April 2017 at 05:12, Garth Wallace via Unicode > wrote: > > > > Later Xiangqi proposals by Andrew West focused on > > the circled ideographs and did not pursue new diagram drawing characters, > > and were

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-11 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Philippe Verdy via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > > 2017-04-11 15:04 GMT+02:00 Kent Karlsson via Unicode > : > >> >> Den 2017-04-10 12:19, skrev "Michael Everson" : >> >> > I believe the box drawing characters are for drawing boxes >> >> Which is exactl

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-11 Thread Garth Wallace via Unicode
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 6:04 AM, Kent Karlsson via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > Den 2017-04-10 12:19, skrev "Michael Everson" : > > > I donšt want to get mixed up in using the box-drawing > > characters. The characters which I have chosen work fine and to my mind > suit > > the applic

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-07 Thread Garth Wallace
On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Christoph Päper wrote: > Garth Wallace : > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 5:19 AM, Christoph Päper < > christoph.pae...@crissov.de> > > wrote: > > > > > Although Michael Everson readily dismisses any connection to emojis, >

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-06 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 5:19 AM, Christoph Päper wrote: > Mark Davis ☕️ : > > > > I'm looking forward to similar postings on checkers and go pieces. (...) > > And I'm looking also forward to the ♖+ZWJ+⬛️ (etc) proposal. > > Well, actually ... > > Gar

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-05 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:14 AM Michael Everson wrote: > Argh, Garth… please don’t shoot down our own proposal… I'm not, I'm just saying that if having symbols without VS not match either of the VSes is a sticking point, it's not hard to work around. > > > >

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-04 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Richard Wordingham < richard.wording...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 23:35:52 +0100 > Michael Everson wrote: > > > On 3 Apr 2017, at 22:03, Richard Wordingham > > wrote: > > The relevant text before was, > > "I'm talking about looking for a U+2654 gly

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-01 Thread Garth Wallace
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Rebecca T <637...@gmail.com> wrote: > > No chess symbols, encoded or proposed, are emoji, nor should they be. > > Except on Samsung > > . > They do not *officially

Re: Proposal to add standardized variation sequences for chess notation

2017-04-01 Thread Garth Wallace
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Christoph Päper < christoph.pae...@crissov.de> wrote: > Michael Everson : > > > > Variation Sequences have been implemented for a number of symbol > characters > > recently to make them useful for specialized purposes. > > This is were I still suspected there was a

Re: Encoding of old compatibility characters

2017-03-27 Thread Garth Wallace
Apple IIs also had inverse-video letters, and some had "MouseText" pseudographics used to simulate a Mac-like GUI in text mode. I know that a couple of fonts from Kreative put these in the PUA and Nishiki-Teki follows their lead. On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:25 AM Charlotte Buff < irgendeinbenutzern

Re: Curly Lips Code Point Proposal

2017-01-24 Thread Garth Wallace
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Leonardo Boiko wrote: > I find it curious that this community defines the ":3" emoji as "" or > "om nom nom". In my circles it's quite the frequent emoticon/emoji, but > I've never seen it used this way. > I can kind of see how someone might get that impress

Re: Curly Lips Code Point Proposal

2017-01-24 Thread Garth Wallace
AIUI that's a "catlike face" smiley. "Homer eating a donut" is not what I would associate with it at all, IME it's usually used to express something on the order of "mischievous", "playful", or "acting cute". The closest kaomoji equivalent, I think, is (°ω°) or (✧ω✧). On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:39

Re: Misspelling or Miscoding?

2017-01-18 Thread Garth Wallace
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Richard Wordingham < richard.wording...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > When someone enters text with the code points in the wrong order but > the text renders to give the appearance that should have been intended, > has the typist misspelt, miscoded or what? I am talking

Re: On the upcoming LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL Q

2016-12-25 Thread Garth Wallace
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Yifán Wáng <747.neut...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please excuse my serial posting. > > I recently noticed the subhead given to the LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL > Q in the following document (at A7AF) is "Letter for representation of > morpheme in Japanese". > http://www.un

Re: a character for an unknown character

2016-12-21 Thread Garth Wallace
I think CYFI has characters in the PUA for "lost sign" and "damaged sign". Both are shaded squares using different patterns. On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Richard Wordingham < richard.wording...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:29:59 + > Martin Mueller wrote: > > > I’m new to

Re: Emoji end goal

2016-10-13 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:39 AM, gfb hjjhjh wrote: > So, according to the emoji FAQ > , the end goal of emoji is to > have no emoji? Or something like Softbank's escape sequence? > >Q: What is the longer term plan for emoji? > >A: The Unicode Consortiu

Re: Bit arithmetic on Unicode characters?

2016-10-08 Thread Garth Wallace
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > Markup for rotation is highly underdeveloped, and in this case for chess > it has its own semantics, it's not just a presentation feature, possibly > meant for playing on larger boards with more players than 2, and > distinguished just like

Re: Bit arithmetic on Unicode characters?

2016-10-08 Thread Garth Wallace
Sorry about the blank reply. Itchy trigger finger. On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Ken Whistler wrote: > > On 10/6/2016 12:44 PM, Garth Wallace wrote: > > Some representatives of the WFCC have proposed alternate arrangements that > assume there will be a need for bitwise opera

Re: Bit arithmetic on Unicode characters?

2016-10-07 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Ken Whistler wrote: > > On 10/6/2016 12:44 PM, Garth Wallace wrote: > > Some representatives of the WFCC have proposed alternate arrangements that > assume there will be a need for bitwise operations to covert between the > existing ch

Re: Bit arithmetic on Unicode characters?

2016-10-07 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Shawn Steele wrote: > Presumably a table-based approach would merely require rerunning the > table-building script from the UCD when new versions were released. > For casing, sure, but that's not really relevant in this context, since Unicode doesn't really addres

Bit arithmetic on Unicode characters?

2016-10-06 Thread Garth Wallace
Other than converting between UTFs, is bit arithmetic commonly performed on Unicode characters? I was under the impression that it's a rarity if it is done at all. I've been working on a proposal for additional chess symbols used in chess problems and variant games, and I've been in communication

Re: Why incomplete subscript/superscript alphabet ?

2016-10-03 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Steve Swales wrote: > > > On Oct 3, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: > > > > a.lukyanov wrote: > > > >> I think that the right thing to do would be to create several new > >> control/formatting characters, like this: > >> > >> "previous character is superscri

Re: I'm excited about the proposal to add a brontosaurus emoji codepoint

2016-08-29 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Leonardo Boiko wrote: > We obviously need an emoji for every species name listed within The > Official Registry of Zoological Nomenclature. > > I propose a new set of Basic Latin characters, the Zoological Nomenclature > Indicator Symbols, to be used for spelling

Re: I'm excited about the proposal to add a brontosaurus emoji codepoint

2016-08-29 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > > > On 29 Aug 2016, at 20:33, Mark Davis ☕️ wrote: > > > > There have been dinosaur proposals; the emoji subcommittee is still > looking at the priorities among animals. > > Andrew West’s dinosaur proposal was spot-on in its scope and pre

Re: [UTR#51-8] 1.4.3 Emoji Variation Sequences: Female/Venus and Male/Mars Signs

2016-08-26 Thread Garth Wallace
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:07 AM, Christoph Päper < christoph.pae...@crissov.de> wrote: > Christoph Päper : > > > > No, but many, perhaps most of ‘General Category = Other_Symbol (So), > Script = Common, Bidirectional Category = Other_Neutral (ON)’ probably and > few others (e.g. with ‘Bidirectiona

Re: U+hhhh[h[h]] NAME syntax

2016-08-13 Thread Garth Wallace
Appendix A: Notational Conventions On Friday, August 12, 2016, Sean Leonard wrote: > It appears that U+[h[h]] NAME syntax is a very common--one might say > "standard"--way of representing a particular Unicode character or code > point in text. > > It is the way that the Unicode Standard 9.0.

Re: New olympic sport emoji

2016-08-04 Thread Garth Wallace
Personally, I think Unicode should just encode a set of sports pictograms of the Olympic type (stylized figures engaged in activity, rather than pieces of equipment) and be done with it, but the Consortium clearly disagrees. On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > For softball I

Re: New olympic sport emoji

2016-08-03 Thread Garth Wallace
Judging by the attached gif, it looks like they actually mean hashflags, not Unicode emoji. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:57 PM, gfb hjjhjh wrote: > In https://twitter.com/Tokyo2020/status/760930003760492544 , Tokyo > Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games think twitter > shall add

Re: Re: Adding half-star to Unicode?

2016-06-24 Thread Garth Wallace
But would anarchists even want their symbol to be encoded? On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:04 AM, "Jörg Knappen" wrote: > Talking about fancy five stars, besides the vertically split ones there is > the "Anarchist star" (a symbol for anarcho-syndicalism) > with a diagonal split in a upper left red hal

Re: Adding half-star to Unicode?

2016-06-23 Thread Garth Wallace
n Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > You're right, mirroring for RTL, and vertical presentation may avoid > creating 4 characters, only one would then be needed: HALF-BLACK WHITE STAR > ... > > 2016-06-23 23:34 GMT+02:00 Garth Wallace : > >> On

Re: Adding half-star to Unicode?

2016-06-23 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Ken Shirriff wrote: > Half-stars are used all over the place for reviews and many people have > expressed interest in a Unicode half star. I propose two new Unicode > characters: half a BLACK STAR (★) and a half-filled WHITE STAR (☆), i.e. a > half star without a

Re: Public review of draft repertoire for ISO/IEC 10646

2016-06-16 Thread Garth Wallace
I'm not sure if it merits formal feedback, but would it be a good idea to cross reference IDEOGRAPHIC TALLY MARK FIVE to CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-6B63? They are effectively visually identical (in fact I was under the impression they were the same thing). On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Rick McGowan

Re:

2016-06-08 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Faulks wrote: > Hello, > > Just a question here. > > The Zodiac sign Capricorn has an alternate Glyph/Symbol (see below): > http://www.capricornzodiacsign.net/capricornsymbol.htm > > It is only vaguely similar to the glyph found in the Unicode charts and > as

Re:

2016-06-08 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Faulks wrote: > Hello, > > Just a question here. > > The Zodiac sign Capricorn has an alternate Glyph/Symbol (see below): > http://www.capricornzodiacsign.net/capricornsymbol.htm > > It is only vaguely similar to the glyph found in the Unicode charts and > as

Re: Purpose of and rationale behind Go Markers U+2686 to U+2689

2016-03-19 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 11:28 PM, J Decker wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Garth Wallace wrote: >> There's another strategy for dealing with enclosed numbers, which is >> taken by the font Quivira in its PUA: encoding separate >> left-half-circle-enclosed and

Re: Purpose of and rationale behind Go Markers U+2686 to U+2689

2016-03-19 Thread Garth Wallace
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > 2016-03-18 19:11 GMT+01:00 Garth Wallace : >> >> > The issues with line breaking (if you can use these combining around all >> > characters, inclusing spaces, can be solved using unbreakable >> > c

Re: Purpose of and rationale behind Go Markers U+2686 to U+2689

2016-03-19 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Garth Wallace wrote: > There's another strategy for dealing with enclosed numbers, which is > taken by the font Quivira in its PUA: encoding separate > left-half-circle-enclosed and right-half-circle-enclosed digits. This > would require 20 charac

Re: Purpose of and rationale behind Go Markers U+2686 to U+2689

2016-03-18 Thread Garth Wallace
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:08 AM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > That's a smart idea... Note that you could encode the middle digits so that > their enclosure at top and bottom are by default only horizontal (no arcs of > circle) when shown in isolation, and the left and right parts are just > connecting

Re: Purpose of and rationale behind Go Markers U+2686 to U+2689

2016-03-18 Thread Garth Wallace
There's another strategy for dealing with enclosed numbers, which is taken by the font Quivira in its PUA: encoding separate left-half-circle-enclosed and right-half-circle-enclosed digits. This would require 20 characters to cover the double digit range 00–99. Enclosed three digit numbers would re

Re: Easter island inscriptions

2016-03-12 Thread Garth Wallace
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > What is the encoding status of this script, found on inscriptions of Easter > Island ? > > http://www.jps.auckland.ac.nz/document?wid=115 It's called Rongorongo, and according to the Roadmap about 40 columns have been provisionally set asid

Re: Girl, 12, charged for threatening her school with emojis

2016-02-29 Thread Garth Wallace
Some are used to express emotions but many are not: food items, animals, landmarks, activities, etc. I think the majority do not have clear emotional referents. The original set introduced in Unicode 6.0 included things like ROASTED SWEET POTATO and TOKYO TOWER. On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Ph

Re: [Unicode] Re: HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1

2016-01-13 Thread Garth Wallace
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 6:55 AM, suzuki toshiya wrote: > Garth Wallace wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:56 AM, suzuki toshiya >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm not a representative of the experts working for the >>> proposal from Japan NB, bu

Re: [Unicode] Re: HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1

2016-01-07 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:56 AM, suzuki toshiya wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not a representative of the experts working for the > proposal from Japan NB, but I could explain something. > > 1) "They never took that out?" I'm not sure who you mean > "they" (UTC? JNB?), but it seems that no official document

Re: HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1

2016-01-06 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 6 Jan 2016, at 14:42, David Corbett wrote: >> >> Is there a difference between HENTAIGANA LETTER E-1 in L2/15-343 and >> U+1B001 HIRAGANA LETTER ARCHAIC YE? > > No, there is not. The former would be unified with it. > > Michael Everson *

Re: Hentaigana proposal

2015-12-16 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Nicolas Tranter wrote: > I comment as a western Japanologist who teaches and researches using > hentaigana. I have published with hentaigana using image files (resulting in > two publisher errors) and will publish next year with hentaigana using the > Koin Hentaigan

Re: Dark beer emoji

2015-09-02 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Michael McGlothlin wrote: > It should be applied to all emoji. Could be fun with the poo one. Who was it who proposed a set of Bristol stool scale modifiers for U+1F4A9?

Re: Dark beer emoji

2015-09-02 Thread Garth Wallace
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Marcel Schneider wrote: > On 02 Sep 2015 at 20:07, Michael McGlothlin > wrote: > >> It should be applied to all emoji. Could be fun with the poo one. >> >> >> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: >> >> >> >> As an alternative to this proposal that may pr

Re: Wrong character code for HELM SYMBOL in TR 51 Unicode Emoji?

2015-08-29 Thread Garth Wallace
It certainly looks that way. In just the next paragraph it mentions "U+2615 HOT BEVERAGE (introduced in Unicode 4.0)" On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Adam Renberg wrote: > Hi, > > I've just read through the Unicode Technical Report #51 Unicode Emoji [1], > and I have a question. In section 3.3 M

Re: Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Garth Wallace
ven if I did attempt to track down > specifically which font was involved for the current Unicode 26XX > block for the 2654..265F range of glyphs, knowing that wouldn't > actually help much for your question, I think. > > --Ken > > > On 8/14/2015 11:31 AM, Garth Wallace

Chess symbol glyphs in code charts

2015-08-14 Thread Garth Wallace
Can anyone tell me what font is used for the chess symbols in the code chart for the Miscellaneous Symbols block? It looks a lot like Chess Merida but I can't be certain.

Re: Olympic sports emoji

2015-08-03 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Garth Wallace wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: >> Leo Broukhis wrote: >> >>> Fonts vary and can be copyrighted, no doubt, but Unicode is not about >>> fonts. >> >> I was going to bust

Re: Emoji characters for food allergens

2015-07-28 Thread Garth Wallace
That's what Mr. Overington wants, but he's not the original proposer. The proposal by Hiroyuki Komatsu does not say anything of the sort, and by unifying some with existing characters implies otherwise. On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 1:26

Re: Emoji characters for food allergens

2015-07-28 Thread Garth Wallace
t be useful, if there were a textual > use for them. > >> On 26 Jul 2015, at 06:05, Garth Wallace wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 9:43 AM, William_J_G Overington >> wrote: >>> Emoji characters for food allergens >>> >>> An interesting docu

Re: Hentaigana and the Kana Supplement block

2015-07-27 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Markus Scherer wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Garth Wallace wrote: >> >> where >> does that leave the Kana Supplement block? That block contains only >> two encoded characters, but was allocated 256 code points, presumably &g

Fwd: Olympic sports emoji

2015-07-27 Thread Garth Wallace
(sorry, meant to send this to the list) On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: > Leo Broukhis wrote: > >> Fonts vary and can be copyrighted, no doubt, but Unicode is not about >> fonts. > > I was going to bust out the Apple logo as an analogy to the Olympic > symbols, but apparently

Hentaigana and the Kana Supplement block

2015-07-27 Thread Garth Wallace
The recent hentaigana proposal requests that they be encoded as Standardized Variation Sequences of hiragana. This seems like a good idea, since fallback in the absence of font support would be to the standard hiragana, so the results would still be readable. But where does that leave the Kana Supp

Re: Olympic sports emoji

2015-07-27 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: > Garth Wallace wrote: > >> I read this proposal [L2/15-196R] and was a little confused. Why >> aren't they proposing the actual sports pictograms that are in use for >> international events like the Olympics?

Olympic sports emoji

2015-07-27 Thread Garth Wallace
I read this proposal and was a little confused. Why aren't they proposing the actual sports pictograms that are in use for international events like the Olympics? Those are generally stylized human figures shown engaging in sports, but the suggested symbols in this proposal seem to mostly be pictur

Re: Emoji characters for food allergens

2015-07-25 Thread Garth Wallace
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 9:43 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: > Emoji characters for food allergens > > An interesting document entitled > > Preliminary proposal to add emoji characters for food allergens > > by Hiroyuki Komatsu > > was added into the UTC (Unicode Technical Committee) Document Re

Emoji: The Movie

2015-07-21 Thread Garth Wallace
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not: http://deadline.com/2015/07/emoji-movie-sony-pictures-animation-anthony-leondis-kung-fu-panda-secrets-of-the-masters-1201482768/

Re: Stationary vs. waving flags (was: Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode)

2015-07-06 Thread Garth Wallace
7;t be the base > character instead. I suspect it's because WAVING WHITE FLAG is defined as having an emoji representation and WHITE FLAG isn't. > But then Garth Wallace wrote: > >> I'm concerned that the proposed base is a white flag, which usually >> means &quo

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

2015-07-06 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Asmus Freytag (t) wrote: > On 7/6/2015 9:42 AM, Steve Swales wrote: > > Or a flag inversion modifier… recently I discovered that the Philippines > flag, for example, has a special meaning (we are at war) when inverted. > Just a thought. > > > Rather than modifiers,

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

2015-07-02 Thread Garth Wallace
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: > Ken Whistler wrote: > >> The UTC is neither responsible for nor interested in a "standard way >> to encode flags unambiguously". >> >> [...] >> >> The Unicode Standard is not a vexillology standard -- nor will it ever >> be. It is a standard fo

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

2015-06-30 Thread Garth Wallace
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Richard Cook wrote: > > > > > On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Garth Wallace wrote: > > I don't think display of U+1F308 as a rainbow flag would be expected > behavior. It risks turning a text like "It's a beautiful day! [i

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

2015-06-30 Thread Garth Wallace
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Richard Cook wrote: > Ken, > > I know that U+1F308 is RAINBOW ... because my nameslist lookup tool tells > me so ... > > TCUTF-8Codepoint : Name : Annotations1[image: 🌈]C2_A01F308 RAINBOW > > > > .

Re: Chess symbol rotations (revisited)

2015-04-14 Thread Garth Wallace
On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 14 Apr 2015, at 02:21, Garth Wallace > > wrote: > > > >> On Monday, April 13, 2015, Hans Aberg > wrote: > >> > >> > On 13 Apr 2015, at 23:18, Garth Wallace > wrote: > >>

Re: Chess symbol rotations (revisited)

2015-04-13 Thread Garth Wallace
On Monday, April 13, 2015, Hans Aberg wrote: > > > On 13 Apr 2015, at 23:18, Garth Wallace > > wrote: > > > > I'm much further along on my research for a proposal to encode > > heterodox chess symbols. I asked about terms for rotations last > > Novemb

Chess symbol rotations (revisited)

2015-04-13 Thread Garth Wallace
I'm much further along on my research for a proposal to encode heterodox chess symbols. I asked about terms for rotations last November and was told that the terms in use in the standard are CLOCKWISE-ROTATED and ANTICLOCKWISE-ROTATED (e.g. U+29BC), but I wasn't sure I would be proposing the knight

Re: Meroitic cursive fractions numerical values

2015-04-02 Thread Garth Wallace
On Sunday, March 29, 2015, Andrew West wrote: > > Having said that, I note that the > numeric value of one character has been reduced in the Unicode data: > U+2189 VULGAR FRACTION ZERO THIRDS is given the numeric value of "0" > rather that "0/3". > Could that be because it's intended less as an

Re: preliminary proposal: New Unicode characters for Arabic music half-flat and half-sharp

2015-03-29 Thread Garth Wallace
d for their > music. For Arabic Music notation, the two Johnny proposes would be > sufficient. > > -Sami > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > Original message > From: Garth Wallace > Date:03/29/2015 4:02 PM (GMT-05:00) >

Re: preliminary proposal: New Unicode characters for Arabic music half-flat and half-sharp

2015-03-29 Thread Garth Wallace
Wouldn't it be easier just to change the example glyphs for U+1D132 MUSICAL SYMBOL QUARTER TONE SHARP and U+1D133 MUSICAL SYMBOL QUARTER TONE FLAT? The ones currently in the charts do not appear to be in common use. The most common symbol for the quarter tone flat, from what I've gathered, is a re

Terms for rotations

2014-11-07 Thread Garth Wallace
Hello, I'm currently working towards a proposal to encode a set of symbols used in fairy chess and chess variants, and I have a question about naming conventions. Several of the symbols are rotations of already encoded symbols. According to the FAQ, "turned" is preferred for 180° rotations, and "r