The most useful feature for me (Debian user, linguist) would be a search
system where I can provide a string, and filter fonts to those who include
glyphs for all characters; ideally if I could also combine it with other
search criteria, like OTF features (true small caps, etc.). I often write
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> Leonardo Boiko:
> >
> > It would just be more
> > satisfying for me if the blue books were encoded in the font as U+1F4D8s,
> > rather than U+F02Ds. Or, if the colors are done at a CSS level, as 📕
> > U+1F4D5 CLOSED BOOKs or the like. Same goes
help this sort of interoperability, while causing no
problems for anyone (it's, after all, just a matter of choosing which
numbers you give to which icons; calling it #128213 is as easy as calling
it #61485).
2017-07-24 1:45 GMT+02:00 Doug Ewell via Unicode :
> Leonardo Boiko wro
t means, do we have a code point for it already?
>>
>> If we do, maybe that'd be already enough.
>>
>> There are indeed already many emoji misused here and there due different
>> visual meaning in different cultures (the triumph face, as example, the one
>>
I find it curious that this community defines the ":3" emoji as "" or
"om nom nom". In my circles it's quite the frequent emoticon/emoji, but
I've never seen it used this way. Instead, they usually employ it as "cat
mouth" or "cat face", implying the mood of cuteness, perkiness or
mischievou
2016-12-26 13:45 GMT-02:00 Yifán Wáng <747.neut...@gmail.com>:
> You may be under impression that the letter has something to do with
> morphology, but my argument is that the original "Letter for
> representation of morpheme in Japanese" is a misnomer and this letter
> is totally unrelated to mor
n with its fellows /ɴ/,
/ʀ/, /ʜ/ etc. Some books make all of them capitals, but others all
small capitals.
Making into small capitals avoids possible confusions with variables
like /C/ or /V/.
2016-12-26 5:03 GMT+09:00 Leonardo Boiko :
> Agreed with Yifán Wáng... But I wonder about the need for
Agreed with Yifán Wáng... But I wonder about the need for the character in
the first place. Are we going to add a full small-caps set, too, given its
use in morphological glosses? Isn't it enough to use a regular 'Q' in
plain-text, and style to small caps in rich text?
I can see the rationale for
I support the creation of manatee emoji, but only if it’s accompanied
by a new modifier for emoji size, coming in the varieties: TINY,
SMALL, LARGE, HUGE.
This would allow us to say "oh, the [HUGE MANATEE]" in emoji.
2016-11-23 13:15 GMT-02:00 James Kass :
> http://patch.com/florida/southtampa/pe
Yes, the end goal of the Unicode Consortium is media attention by way of
virtue signaling. For every online article about emoji modifiers, each
individual member of the Consortium earns a fifty-Euro bonus from our
masters, the global feminist cultural-Marxist Jewish conspiracy, for our
support in p
That's not "his" definition of non-free. Restrictions on selling copies
commercially violate the Free Software Foundation's definition of non-free:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#NonFreeSoftwareLicenses
And also the Open Source Initiativ
The Google error message felt a bit too harsh for a webhosting client who
merely exceeded their allotted bandwidth. It made it sound like the
website was hosting something illegal.
2016-10-04 13:00 GMT-03:00 Philippe Verdy :
> It looks that an automated bot run by Google detected an excessive us
2016-10-03 14:51 GMT-03:00 Jukka K. Korpela :
> They are not control or formatting characters. They are markup used at
> higher protocol levels – in different markup systems
>
>
That's exactly the point, yes.
Besides, there are already control/formatting characters for such purposes
– several ones, even. They look like this: , ^{}, \textsuperscript{},
\*{ \*} …
What's more, these powerful control/formatting characters allow one to
apply not only super/subscript and blackletter, but many more features
The Unicode codepoints are not intended as a place to store typographically
variant glyphs (much like the Unicode "italic" characters aren't designed
as a way of encoding italic faces). The correct thing here is that the
markup and the font-rendering systems *should* automatically work together
to
This isn't news, but I find it interesting how some emoji are being used in
ways that differ from their Unicode names, reflecting alternative
interpretations of common glyphs. I'll compare data from the Unicode chart
with interpretations taken from Emojipedia, which I think do reflect
real-world us
We obviously need an emoji for every species name listed within The
Official Registry of Zoological Nomenclature.
I propose a new set of Basic Latin characters, the Zoological Nomenclature
Indicator Symbols, to be used for spelling scientific names, which are then
rendered as cutesy colorful icons
entifiers", which are, and suggests
various compromises between them.
2016-08-04 17:44 GMT-03:00 Sean Leonard :
> I read through TR18...it mainly says that == \s == \p{Whitespace}
> == property White_Space is true. Does it say anything else or more
> significant than that, that I&
What Mark Davis said; also, depending on what you need, consider taking a
look at the definitions used by Unicode regexpes, at
http://unicode.org/reports/tr18/ .
2016-08-04 16:37 GMT-03:00 Sean Leonard :
> Hi Unicode Folks:
>
> I am trying to come up with a sensible sets of characters that are
>
Hi,
the IDS provide too little information for rendering kanji properly. Take a
look into
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character_description_languages .
Hello,
As I read that it is possible for an implementation of Unicode that can
render those ideographic description characters into r
> My bet is that they'll prefer using whatever code they want, hacking
fonts as necessary to overtake another political symbol when they'll want.
They could liberate a code point from the private use area.
2016-06-24 14:10 GMT-03:00 Philippe Verdy :
> My bet is that they'll prefer using whatev
2016-05-04 4:14 GMT-03:00 Shriramana Sharma :
> Isn't there some Japanese orthography feature that already does
> something like this?
Japanese (and Chinese) vertical calligraphy can do arbitrary-length
stretching of lines (like the Arabic kashida under discussion, and
like most cursive scripts in
Yeah, I've stumbled upon this a lot in academic Japanese/Chinese
texts. I try to copy some Chinese character, only to find out that
it's really a string of random ASCII characters.
Is there only one of those crap PDF pseudo-encodings? If so, I'll use
a conversor next time...
2016-03-17 14:57 GMT
The PDF *displays* correctly. But try copying the string 'ti' from
the text another application outside of your PDF viewer, and you'll
see that the thing that *displays* as 'ti' is *coded* as Ɵ, as Don
Osborn said.
2016-03-17 14:26 GMT-03:00 Pierpaolo Bernardi :
> That document displays correctl
Isn't it better to use some sort of COMBINING ENCLOSING CIRCLE?
2016/03/10 8:30 "Andrew West" :
> On 10 March 2016 at 07:00, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
> >
> > because these numbers can go up to the 200s, it doesn't make sense to
> > register them all as characters (one would need over 500!).
>
> I d
Ah but that is a "majority" by a dictionary/type count. Due to Zipf's Law,
in language matters we should always distinguish dictionary counts from
actual usage. E.g. Twitter is very popular in Japan, and I think we'll all
agree that the top used kanji are predominantly modal:
http://emojitracker.
It's a picture-character, sure; but I'd think that, like kaomoji before
them, they've been used since the beginning to express the attitude of the
writer, a kind of "emotion" (in linguistic terms, the "mood" of the
utterance). For example, consider the ubiquitous ♥ sign, which also
predates cellph
I like the more descriptive names, but I'd like to have this data available
in some supplementary table available anyway, regardless of the naming
scheme.
2015-12-16 16:17 GMT-02:00 Garth Wallace :
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Nicolas Tranter
> wrote:
> > I comment as a western Japanologist
2015-07-06 17:11 GMT-03:00 Doug Ewell :
> Is it your belief that users who wish to display an emoji flag care
> whether the flag is shown stationary versus flapping in the wind?
I think a waving white flag is an emoji symbol for
"truce/surrender/come in peace", whereas a white rectangle doesn't
ea
Serious question: Has someone discussed a generic combining mechanism? I
mean, characters with an effect like "combine the last two". Say, '!' +
'?' + COMBINING OVERLAY = '‽'. '!' + '!' + COMBINING SIDE BY SIDE = '‼',
and so on. Similar in spirit to the Ideographic Description Characters,
but me
You could use U+1F407 RABBIT combined with U+20E4 COMBINING ENCLOSING
UPWARD POINTING TRIANGLE, and pretend the triangle is a hill. 🐇 ⃤
If only we had a combining rabbit, we could add rabbits to U+1F3D4 SNOW
CAPPED MOUNTAIN. Or anything else.
2015-05-28 16:46 GMT-03:00 Philippe Verdy :
> Is t
For the record, the emoji selection issue is also affecting the Google
Talk/Hangouts web client, where U+2122 (trademark, ™), U+00AE (registered,
®), U+00A9 (copyright, ©), and U+2194 (left right arrow, ↔) seem to be
treated as emoji and displayed in funky blue:
http://namakajiri.net/pics/screensh
2014-11-17 10:15 GMT-02:00 Mark Davis ☕️ :
> I agree (except for the derivation of "emoji").
>
Oh, you're totally right: *e-* “drawing” plus *-moji *“character”. My
mistake! 😖
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2014-11-17 9:10 GMT-02:00 Andreas Stötzner :
> [sign] in its generality it is just perfect. […] At least, we should (in
English) speak of Emoticons and not Emoji. […] if precise terming is tricky
I find it better to generalize
These are your opinions. I find them to be perfectly valid (exactly as
2014-11-17 9:08 GMT-02:00 Magnus Bodin ☀ :
> Just to clarify. The transcribed form "ji" in the japanese emoji word
> 絵文字 is probably not from mandarin, since 字 is pronounced "zi" in mandarin.
> Is it pronounced "ji" in an other chinese language?
>
Japanese doesn't usually borrow from Mandarin. R
"Sign" is too general. The word has no less than 12 meanings, and can
refer e.g. to many Unicode characters that are not emojis ("the sharp
sign", "the less-than sign").[1]
It's useful to have a specialized word referring specifically to the new
pictograms used to color electronic messages with
What about using U+0331 "combining macron below" or U+0320 "combining
minus below"? Here are some samples:
U+0331
"̱test"̱
“̱test”̱
U+0320
"̠test"̠
“̠test”̠
2014-06-10 9:39 GMT-03:00 Philippe Verdy :
> (overstriking with or in HTML)
Modern HTML phased out , and has semantic meanings
inna
Even Ruby could do it for years, despite having notoriously bad Unicode
string support back then:
irb> 日本語 = 'むらさき'
=> "むらさき"
irb> íslenska = 'fjólublár'
=> "fjólublár"
irb> 日本語 + ' ' + íslenska
=> "むらさき fjólublár"
I don't think this feature saw much use, since programme
I don't know about the points you raise, but I wish it was easier to help
proofread Unihan data. Back in 2012 I compared kKangXi to kIRGKangXI and
found 252 conflicts, besides the cases where a character only has one or
the other. I even put together a simple tool to help fixing this, with
links
On 7 October 2012 04:37, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> Inspecting the Courier New font, version 5.11, I noticed that the advance
> width of the glyph for U+0332 (glyph uni0331) is 1129 units. I think this
> explains it all. The advance width should be 0.
>
> And other fonts have the same problem, at l
plain text, and it should be simple to compare
several tries for double-checking.
I don’t know if there’s interest in such a thing at the moment, but if
so, there you go. All values apply to Unihan data downloaded a week
ago or so.
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Leonardo Boiko
http://namakajiri.net/nikki
References:
[1] http
Hi,
There are lots of variant fields mapping characters in the Unihan
database. Do any of the fields (or a combination) reproduce the
Japanese kyūjitai↔shinjitai (“old character forms”/“new character
forms”) mappings, as present in the standard Jōyō Kanji-hyō table[1]?
I looked around but faile
you’re writing
Chinese or Japanese, but if you’re writing, say, Spanish, or English
with a single symbol requiring you to engage Unicode mode, you’re back
to telegram age. I don’t know in your countries, but here the price
per SMS really bites…
--
Leonardo Boiko
I guess it’s only a matter of 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞 before people start doing
things like 𝖙𝖍𝖎𝖘 (notice this email is plain-text).
--
Leonardo Boiko
ay it’s the word for “comma” in Portuguese.
We also call the semicolon a “ponto e vírgula” – period and comma,
dot-and-comma.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=virgula
--
Leonardo Boiko
spec) that has its glyph.
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Leonardo Boiko
of “true meaning”. Plain text is to me
simply yet another attempt to represent language, and like all similar
tools, has its strengths and weaknesses—in particular, like all
language representation tools, it can encode some kinds of “meanings”
and not others.
--
Leonardo Boiko
email William, my mistake.)
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Leonardo Boiko
:57, Leonardo Boiko wrote:
>
>> Emphasis on “the only font _I know_”. I didn’t know Andron nor Everson
>> Mono. Besides, while quality, both seem to be non-free, which is something
>> I’m not interested in as a Debian user (nothing against it, it just isn’t my
>> thing
Aug 2010, at 08:52, Andreas Stötzner wrote:
>
>> Am 01.08.2010 um 13:03 schrieb Leonardo Boiko:
>>
>>> And it’s the only font I know with U+2E19 PALM BRANCH ⸙
>>
>> It is not. Andron has it.
>
> As does Everson Mono.
>
> Michael Everson * thttp
Also I think the developers themselves declare it to be "ugly, but
> complete", if I remember correctly.
>
> /jan
>
> Leonardo Boiko wrote:
>>
>> Unifont is not ugly for its intended purpose: a bitmapped, fixed-width
>> 16-pixel font. It’s great for terminals
font (the hànzì in
Unifont are actually based on it, IIRC). The website is
http://wenq.org/enindex.cgi , but it’s pre-packaged for all major
distros.
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http://namakajiri.net
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