Re: Help with arabic

Hi Eric, Here it is: - f33 - word in line 6: بيت - letters in line 7: ك, ي - words in line 8: بيتي, بيتك, بيته - f474 - words in line 6: - il à parle = كلم (but here it looks like there is a typo; it's written as كام) - il à écrit = كتب - il a marché = مشى - il a vu = شاف

Re: Abstract emoji as applied modern art

I am a bit confused about the definitions of "modern art" and "emoji" here: - Are QR, USAF 1951, ISO 12233, variety of fiducial markers (including ISO-233-based OCR block U+2440-244A), and bar-codes also "applied modern art"? - Should Control Pictures (U+2400-243F) be considered emoji as well, sim

Re: Proposal form and docs problems

Seems like `std.dkuug.dk` server is down. So the links are not necessarily dead links. ↪ Shervin On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 2:23 AM, P.D. Myers wrote: > Hello all, > > The weblinks for submission form to the UTC http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/ > WG2/docs/summaryform.html and for the principles and p

Re: New Unicode Emoji draft, available for review

> > I forwarded this on, and the only response I got was a question regarding > if the Fitzpatrick modifiers applied to U+1F4A9? I answered that they only > apply to specified emoji. But I wonder if the question was in fact a > commentary on what they think of the proposal. > Oh...I think that q

Re: Admuncher javascript on Unicode site

I think Rick fixed the issue in the meantime. ↪ Shervin On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote: > Neil, > > I don't think that is true for anyone but you. > > The "ghostery" add-on for FF does not show anything being loaded, and the > page source also does not included the string

Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?

All of the requirements mentioned here can be (and are) implemented in higher levels of software (like IDEs). IMO, there isn't any need for adding new characters to Unicode to address these issues. Additionally, people tend to forget that simply because Unicode is doing emoji out of compatibility

Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?

ll now try to answer all of you in one mail, otherwise it gets > hard to overlook... > > Shervin Afshar: > >> All of the requirements mentioned here can be (and are) implemented in >> higher levels of software (like IDEs). IMO, there isn't any need for adding >> ne

Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?

> > There is no longer any requirement that the robot faces and > burritos appear first in any sort of industry character set extension, > with which Unicode is then obliged to maintain compatibility. Only if you don't consider existing usage and popular requests as requirement and precedence; fo

Re: Emoji (was: Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?)

at's > exactly why "most popular at the moment" wasn't supposed to be a > criterion.) IMO, Unicode officers seems to have low patience for such sentiments. You might want to reconsider your tone. There is a time and place for sarcasm. ↪ Shervin On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:1

Re: Emoji (was: Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?)

rules haven't changed. Unicode didn't have a policy regarding emoji and symbols with similar usage. Now it does. For a longer while now, some folks tend to use emoji as means to an end other than what is in the scope of conversation regarding emoji. And that is not acceptable. ↪ Shervin On

Re: Emoji (was: Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?)

> Of course not. But that's been a stated condition for labeling something > as "compatibility." It *is* compatibility; go back and read my email where I mentioned exactly where it was used. ↪ Shervin On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: > Mark Davis ☕️ wrote: > > >> In what ch

Re: Emoji (was: Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?)

27;t blame you. It's just the good ol' circular logic. ↪ Shervin On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Shervin Afshar wrote: > > Of course not. But that's been a stated condition for labeling something > > as "compatibility." > > It *is* compatibility; go

Re: Emoji (was: Re: Unicode block for programming related symbols and codepoints?)

rvin On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: > Shervin Afshar wrote: > > >> Of course not. But that's been a stated condition for labeling > >> something as "compatibility." > > > > It *is* compatibility; go back and read my email wh

Re: sex and emoji

Related opinion piece: "Are you a smug emoji snob? Chances are you're not getting laid" http://gu.com/p/45n8e/stw On Feb 12, 2015 1:52 PM, "Asmus Freytag" wrote: > To quote: "While this probably isn’t news to fans of the eggplant emoji >

Re: About cultural/languages communities flags

On Feb 13, 2015 3:12 AM, "Philippe Verdy" wrote: > This is completely a non-issue with the Unicode standard itself. There's an ample enough space to use various designs that match character properties as well as user expectations *without* breaking the character identity itself. So even if the US

Use of Flags as Language Identifier on the Web (was: About cultural/languages communities flags)

thors if they > prefer visual icons to plain words). > > > 2015-02-13 16:37 GMT+01:00 Shervin Afshar : > >> >> On Feb 13, 2015 3:12 AM, "Philippe Verdy" wrote: >> >> > This is completely a non-issue with the Unicode standard itself. &g

Re: Use of Flags as Language Identifier on the Web (was: About cultural/languages communities flags)

ave notre disappeared and will likely not in any expected short > time frame. Now with the internet available around the world, massively > advertized and used daily in multiple times or activities, people know > their country code but still not their langage code... > Le 13 févr. 2015 18:42,

Re: Use of Flags as Language Identifier on the Web (was: About cultural/languages communities flags)

I see. It all make sense to me now. For some reason, I was of the impression that we are talking about flags and language codes here. ↪ Shervin On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: > > > 2015-02-13 20:37 GMT+01:00 Shervin Afshar : > >> Some of what you ment

Re: Persian counter styles

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Behnam Rassi wrote: > It is right in terms of what is being used. It is wrong linguistically. > Heh Havvaz (from Abjad alphabet) is not even Heh Dochashmee although it > looks similar. But it should be a non-joining character altogether. > The distinction made he

Re: Persian counter styles

5, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Behnam Rassi wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:40 PM, Shervin Afshar > wrote: > > The distinction made here between Abjad Heh and Arabic Heh is unknown to > me. What makes Abjad Heh different from ARABIC LETTER HEH INITIAL FORM > (U+FEEB)? > > > Heh

Re: Are you CONFUSED about WHAT CHARACTER(S) you type?!?!

Just like Unicode Last Resort Font[1]? [1]: http://www.unicode.org/policies/lastresortfont_eula.html ↪ Shervin On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Michael McGlothlin < mike.mcgloth...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'd like to see a free/open "default" font that has a correct, simple > styled, symbol for ev

Re: Plain text (from Re: Avoidance variants)

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote: > Statelessness looks more like an ideal; the current reality already > violates it. The question is whether that ideal is "violated" because of choice or out of necessity; bidi-related stateful format codes specifically seem like a case

Re: Tag characters

> > Thinking about this further, could the technique be used to solve the > requirements of > section 8 Longer Term Solutions IMO, the industry preferred longer term solution (which is also discussed in that section with few existing examples) for emoji, is not going to be based on characters.

Future of Emoji? (was Re: Tag characters)

ort (with an entire subcommittee) to > encode more emoji as characters, but no effort toward any preferred longer > term solution not based on characters. > > > > > > Peter > > > > *From:* Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] *On Behalf Of *Shervin > Afsha

Re: Future of Emoji? (was Re: Tag characters)

s. Here’s the documented > set: > > > > https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12330/what-is-the-full-list-of-emoticons > > > > And if you search, you’ll find lots more “hidden” emoticons, like > “(bartlett)”. > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > >

Re: Future of Emoji? (was Re: Tag characters)

at this has .swf files, and that’s what we saw one of the > Japanese carriers saying they’d be moving to instead of PUA characters. > > > > > > Peter > > > > *From:* Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] *On Behalf Of *Peter > Constable > *Sent:* F

Re: "Unicode of Death"

> > Unicode is in the news today as some folks with waaay too much time on > their hands have discovered a string consisting of Latin, Arabic, > Devanagari, and CJK characters that crashes Apple devices when it > appears as a pop-up message. > We should be thankful to those folks "waaay too much t

Re: "Unicode of Death"

comments/37eaxs/um_can_someone_explain_this_phenomenon/crm3adg [5]: https://www.myrepospace.com/profile/effective/688319/Unicode_Suppresor ↪ Shervin On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: > Shervin Afshar wrote: > > > Any good technical write up about this? > > Haven't see

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

Single and double diamond? https://bbliss176.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/symbols2_jpg.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Rc9ifOGLYg/TO5fF0XNTSI/IxE/RJPvVDD6gLM/s1600/caution-double-black-diamond.jpg http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/double-black-diamond-sign-legend-ski-slopes-map-40955860.jpg ↪

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

t;diamonds"), > but the wordpress page forgets the "bunny hill". It starts only with the > green circle (in fact a black disc colored in green) which maps to blue > pistes in Europe. > > 2015-05-28 21:59 GMT+02:00 Shervin Afshar : > >> Single and double diamo

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

r just an arrow showing the direction to follow. > > 2015-05-28 22:11 GMT+02:00 Shervin Afshar : > >> Well...to pick the nit, these shapes are rhombi; known colloquially as >> "diamonds". >> >> So what's the symbol for "bunny hill" in Europe? &

Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

Since the double-diamond has map and map legend usage, it might be a good idea to have it encoded separately. I know that I'm stating the obvious here, but the important point is doing the research and showing that it has widespread usage. ↪ Shervin On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Shawn Steele

Encoding map symbols (was: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol...)

s is not a sufficient condition for > encoding a symbol. If it were, all symbols used in physical maps would > have been encoded, including each and every mineral and rare metal. > > > Leo > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Shervin Afshar > wrote: > > Since the doubl

Re: "Unicode of Death"

> > Ask Siri to "read unread messages." > Siri saves the day :). ↪ Shervin On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Alolita Sharma wrote: > Seems like we may see a temporary fix for iOS. > > > http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-issues-temporary-siri-workaround-iphone-crash-unicode-text-message-bug

Re: Accessing the WG2 document register

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:49 AM, Andrew West wrote: > The Unicode Consortium is largely controlled by a few large > American corporations, but ISO is open to participation by standards > organizations representing countries across the globe, and there are > currently thirty participating members

Re: International Register of Coded Character Sets

There are fairly recent copies on Internet Archive as well: https://web.archive.org/web/20150318013320/http://kikaku.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/ ↪ Shervin On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Frédéric Grosshans < frederic.grossh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if it's what you're looking for but Go

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode (Fwd: Representing Additional Types of Flags)

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > Can someone help me understand what this means for my rainbow flag > proposal? > AFAIK, it's not going to have any effect on what you're proposing. This is a mechanism for flags of sub-regions with ISO 3166-2 codes; e.g. US States, countries a

Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode (Fwd: Representing Additional Types of Flags)

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: > > The Tibet Autonomous Region (CN-54), like other regions in China except > Hong Kong and Macao, has no official flag. > > Although this is what some users might expect, implementing or > interpreting "[flag]CN54" as the snow-lion flag, associa

Re: a mug

☝️👅😜😝. 👥🗣, Unicode ⌨📝 ⏩⏩⏩ 💾⚙💻 ; 🚀 vs. 🐌. 👈👌👌👌. 💾⚙💻 🐑 Unicode ✂️📐. ⌨💾⚙💻 💸💸💸. ❌ 💾⚙💻 💣💥. ↪ Shervin On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Julian Bradfield wrote: > I feel the following mug says something about a popular topic of > debate on this list... > > > http://www.redbubble.com/people/insider/wo

Re: Rights to the Emoji

Those listed in the column titled "Native" come from the operating system (in your case, Mac OS X) and/or browser you are viewing that page on. One can assume that the right to those belong to the entity who develops those software. A safer approach for you would be to use symbols from Emoji One[1

Re: Rights to the Emoji

Twemoji are Open Source, but published under CC-BY and that license requires attribution which might be challenging in this specific use case. On Oct 11, 2015 10:46 PM, "Mark Davis ☕️" wrote: > The twitter images are open sourced, I believe. > > {phone} > On Oct 12, 2015

Re: Internationalised Computer Science Exercises

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Richard Wordingham via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 at 16:39:57, Andre Schappo via Unicode < > unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > By way of example, one programming challenge I set to students a > > couple of weeks ago involves diacrit