Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 13:00
Subject: Re: [Way OT] Beer measurements
> On 2003.08.19, 12:20, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In Esperanto, there is no word for "yard".
>
> I paste from _Plena Ilustrita Vortaro_ (SAT: Paris, 1971 -- newer
> editi
On 2003.08.19, 12:20, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In Esperanto, there is no word for "yard".
I paste from _Plena Ilustrita Vortaro_ (SAT: Paris, 1971 -- newer
editions I cannot aford exist), page 450:
jard/o 1 &ship_vignette; Transversa velstango,
al kiu la supra rando de velo estas
Peter Kirk wrote:
> [...] I guess English legs tended to be longer than Roman
> ones.
Well, if by "English" you mean those Germanic barbarians who invaded
Britannia, I guess that the British mile existed way before they set their
feet on the island...
_ Marco
On 20/08/2003 04:58, Kent Karlsson wrote:
Mark Davis wrote:
awful. At least with inches, feet, and miles, the number of
feet per mile don't
vary depending on which mile one is talking about!
A Danish mile is 7 km, a Swedish mile (a fairly popular
distance measure here) is 10 km, and an En
Mark Davis wrote:
> awful. At least with inches, feet, and miles, the number of
> feet per mile don't
> vary depending on which mile one is talking about!
A Danish mile is 7 km, a Swedish mile (a fairly popular
distance measure here) is 10 km, and an English mile is
a mere 1.6 km (approx.). So y
Ted Hopp wrote:
> Since we're speaking of the French (we are, aren't we?) what ever
> happened to French Revolutionary Metric Time?
It was revived in 1998, but the meridian was moved to Switzerland, the
day was divided into 1000 "beats" instead of 10 hours of 100 minutes
each, and the whole thin
> "Curtis" == Curtis Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marco> TOILETS ---> 50 yds (45.72 m)
Curtis> To be precise, it should have said 50.00 yards (or perhaps 46 m).
Actually, 50 only has one significant digit, so that would
in fact round to 50 m afterall. ☺
-JimC
Resending with the correct address...
On 19/08/2003 13:49, Carl W. Brown wrote:
Mark,
Yes, I am sick and tired of dealing with this horrible
non-decimal measurement
system the US has for time: the number of units per other unit
vary all across
the board: 60..61 : 1, 60 : 1, 24 : 1, 28..31 :
John,
> A kilosec is a reasonable amount of time to wait for a late appointment
> (in some countries, anyhow).
>
> A megasec is enough time to do a small project.
>
> If a marriage lasts a gigasec, it is doing very well.
1 pictun = 20 baktun = 2,880,000 days = approx. 7885 years
1 calabtun = 2
Carl W. Brown scripsit:
> I also have a hard time remembering that a Hundredweight c.w.t is
> 112 pounds. I am glad that it is not in common usage.
The Imperial cwt is indeed 112 lb, but the U.S. customary cwt remains 100 lb.
> But working on a house with feet, inches and fractions drives me
>
Ted Hopp wrote:
> Sorry, it would have to be Greenbank, not Washington.
Greenbank. Hm... has a nice ring to it. Greenbank... Greenbank Mean
Time. I could live with that.
On a (hardly) more serious note, Mark Davis wrote:
> this horrible non-decimal measurement system the US
> has for time: the
Timothy Partridge scripsit:
> In the UK the inch is now defined as 25.4mm rather than a subdivision of a
> standard yard kept under lock and key.
True enough, but the yard is still exactly 36 inches.
--
If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, John Cowan
it has been said, then you
Mark,
> Yes, I am sick and tired of dealing with this horrible
> non-decimal measurement
> system the US has for time: the number of units per other unit
> vary all across
> the board: 60..61 : 1, 60 : 1, 24 : 1, 28..31 : 1, 12 : 1,
> 365..366 : 1 --
> awful. At least with inches, feet, and mi
John Cowan recently said:
> Marco Cimarosti scripsit:
>
> > You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metric And Imperial Units Whose
> > Difference Is So Small As To Be Pointless.
> >
> > E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be kept
> > different. In a public park some
Ted Hopp writes
>
> Since we're speaking of the French (we are, aren't we?) what ever happened
> to French Revolutionary Metric Time?
The other French attempts were less successful, such as the 12 30-day
months. The French names for the months Vendémiaire, etc., were parodied in
an English version
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From: "John Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:15
Subject: Re: [Way OT] Beer measurements
On Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:46 PM, Raymond Mercier wrote:
> At some time in the 70's when I was at conference to mark the centenary of
> the Greenwich meridian I learned that the French agreed to give up the
Paris
> meridian if the British agreed to go metric-and that was over a century
ago
> !
Michael Everson scripsit:
> >Michael. Look up "yard" in that OED of yours. Then tell me again just
> >how much you wish to have it "abolished".
>
> It will be a great day when the US finally accepts and implements the
> metric system.
I agree entirely.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Cowan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:41 PM
> To: Marco Cimarosti
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SPAM: Re: [Way OT] Beer measurements (was: Re:
> Handwritten EURO
At some time in the 70's when I was at conference to mark the centenary of
the Greenwich meridian I learned that the French agreed to give up the Paris
meridian if the British agreed to go metric-and that was over a century ago
!
Maybe the U.S. could be bribed to go metric if they were allowed to h
At 10:39 -0400 2003-08-19, John Cowan wrote:
Michael. Look up "yard" in that OED of yours. Then tell me again just
how much you wish to have it "abolished".
It will be a great day when the US finally accepts and implements the
metric system.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http:/
on 2003-08-19 04:18 Pim Blokland wrote:
Ha! Fat chance! You might as well suggest we abolish the yard
altogether!
Then, how would I have a yard sale? (or even a yard sail?)
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At 08:37 -0700 2003-08-19, Doug Ewell wrote:
Around the 1970s, it became fashionable for baseball stadiums to display
field dimensions on the outfield walls in meters as well as feet.
Because of the Canadians?
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on 2003-08-19 02:51 Marco Cimarosti wrote:
TOILETS --->
50 yds (45.72 m)
To be precise, it should have said 50.00 yards (or perhaps 46 m).
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Marco Cimarosti wrote:
> E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be kept
> different. In a public park somewhere in UK or Ireland I have seen the
> following sign:
>
> TOILETS --->
> 50 yds (45.72 m)
Around the 1970s, it became fashionable for baseball stadiums to
Michael Everson wrote:
>> 'Sblood, nay! I love the metric system as well as any, but have no
>> desire to have my yard abolished.
>
> It shall pass the way of the cubit and the stadia
Not as long as educational materials for children continue to include
conversion tables with esoteric Imper
Pim Blokland wrote:
> > It must be a really urgent need if one cares about those 3.28
> metres...
>
> 4.28 actually.
Ooops.
> But are you serious about lengthening the yard to be the same size
> as the meter?
I was just joking...
> Ha! Fat chance! You might as well suggest we abolish the y
Michael Everson scripsit:
> >'Sblood, nay! I love the metric system as well as any, but have no
> >desire to have my yard abolished.
>
> It shall pass the way of the cubit and the stadia
Michael. Look up "yard" in that OED of yours. Then tell me again just
how much you wish to have it "ab
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit:
> However, Esperanto was not entirely successful in its goal to become a
> second language for everyone, given that more people speak Klingon than
> Esperanto,
Entirely false. Esperanto speakers are numbered in the millions, including
hundreds, perhaps thousands, who
At 08:41 -0400 2003-08-19, John Cowan wrote:
Michael Everson scripsit:
At 13:18 +0200 2003-08-19, Pim Blokland wrote:
>You might as well suggest we abolish the yard altogether!
What a superb idea.
'Sblood, nay! I love the metric system as well as any, but have no
desire to have my yard aboli
Michael Everson scripsit:
> At 13:18 +0200 2003-08-19, Pim Blokland wrote:
>
> >You might as well suggest we abolish the yard altogether!
>
> What a superb idea.
'Sblood, nay! I love the metric system as well as any, but have no
desire to have my yard abolished.
--
"Do I contradict myself?
Marco Cimarosti scripsit:
> You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metric And Imperial Units Whose
> Difference Is So Small As To Be Pointless.
>
> E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be kept
> different. In a public park somewhere in UK or Ireland I have seen the
>
At 13:18 +0200 2003-08-19, Pim Blokland wrote:
You might as well suggest we abolish the yard altogether!
What a superb idea.
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
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From: Marco Cimarosti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:51 AM
To: 'Doug Ewell'; Unicode Mailing List
Cc: Michael Everson
Subject: RE: [Way OT] Beer measurements (was: Re: Handwritten EURO sign)
E.g., I never understood why on ea
Marco Cimarosti schreef:
> E.g., I never understood why on earth metres and yards should be
kept
> different. In a public park somewhere in UK or Ireland I have seen
the
> following sign:
>
> TOILETS --->
> 50 yds (45.72 m)
>
> It must be a really urgent need if one cares about those
On 19/08/2003 02:51, Marco Cimarosti wrote:
Doug Ewell wrote:
Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500
mL, just as a "fifth" of liquor in America is now
officially 750 mL? Seems like a good task for an ISO
working group.
You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metr
Doug Ewell wrote:
> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500
> mL, just as a "fifth" of liquor in America is now
> officially 750 mL? Seems like a good task for an ISO
> working group.
You could generalize it a bit: Alignment Of Metric And Imperial Units Whose
Difference Is So
On 18/08/2003 04:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I don't see why we have to sell beer (or anything else for that
matter) in integer multiples of any kind of "units" at all. Why can't we
just bring an arbitrarily sized, partially full, glass to the bar and say to
the guy at the bar: "Could
and charging it to the till as zero point something litres?
Jill
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From: Peter Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:21 AM
To: Doug Ewell; Unicode List
Subject: Re: [Way OT] Beer measurements
On 17/08/2003 19:48, Doug Ewell wrote:
>Michael
On 17/08/2003 19:48, Doug Ewell wrote:
Michael Everson wrote:
Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a
liter of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah,
that's just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the
Flintstone one is only .47 lite
Ted Hopp wrote:
>> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500 mL, just
>> as a "fifth" of liquor in America is now officially 750 mL? Seems
>> like a good task for an ISO working group.
>
> Egads! THAT would be enough to drive a person to drink.
Thus promoting widespread use of
On Sunday, August 17, 2003 10:48 PM, Doug Ewell wrote:
> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500 mL, just as
> a "fifth" of liquor in America is now officially 750 mL? Seems like a
> good task for an ISO working group.
Egads! THAT would be enough to drive a person to drink.
Doug Ewell scripsit:
> Shouldn't a "pint" of beer be administratively fixed at 500 mL, just as
> a "fifth" of liquor in America is now officially 750 mL? Seems like a
> good task for an ISO working group.
Arrgh. Shall we return to a firkin of beer in London being one size,
a firkin of wine in L
Michael Everson wrote:
>> Yup. Hence also the Brit's complaint about the metric system: a
>> liter of beer is too much, half a liter isn't enough, but a pint, ah,
>> that's just right. The Imperial pint is .57 liters, whereas the
>> Flintstone one is only .47 liters.
>
> A half-litre can of Gui
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