Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-10 Thread William_J_G Overington
Thank you for replying. On Saturday, 7 August 2010, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: I think the alternate ending glyph is supposed to be specified in more detail than that. The example Asmus gave was U+222A UNION with serifs. Even though the exact proportions of the serifs may differ

Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-09 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Doug Ewell wrote: I'd like to see an FAQ page on What is Plain Text? written primarily by UTC officers. That might go a long way toward resolving the differences between William's interpretation of what plain text is, which people like me think is too broad,

Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-09 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
John H. Jenkins wrote: The basic idea is that plain text is the minimum amount of information to process the given language in a normal way. That's a bit vague. We don't normally process languages; we read texts. Whether font or color variation is essential for understanding really depends

Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-07 Thread William_J_G Overington
Thank you for replying. On Friday 6 August 2010, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: What you mean are artistic or stylistic variants. These have certain problems, see here for an explanation: http://www.unicode.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=221#p221 A./     I have read and

Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-07 Thread William_J_G Overington
Thank you for replying. On Friday 6 August 2010, John H. Jenkins jenk...@apple.com wrote: This is another case of a solution in search of a problem. No, the problem is that one cannot at present, as far as I know, access alternate glyphs of an advanced format font from a plain text file.

Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-07 Thread Doug Ewell
William_J_G Overington wjgo underscore 10009 at btinternet dot com wrote: I cannot understand from that text, or otherwise at the time of writing this reply, why it would not be possible to have an alternate ending glyph for a letter e accessible from plain text using an advanced font

Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-06 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Thursday, 5 August 2010, Kenneth Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: I am thinking of where a poet might specify an ending version of a glyph at the end of the last word on some lines, yet not on others, for poetic effect. I think that it would be good if one could specify that in plain

Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-06 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 8/6/2010 2:03 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: On Thursday, 5 August 2010, Kenneth Whistler k...@sybase.com wrote: I am thinking of where a poet might specify an ending version of a glyph at the end of the last word on some lines, yet not on others, for poetic effect. I think that it

Re: Accessing alternate glyphs from plain text (from Re: Draft Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters)

2010-08-06 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Aug 6, 2010, at 3:03 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: The standards organizations have a great opportunity to advance typography by defining some of the Latin letter plus variation selector pairs so that alternate glyphs within a font may be accessed directly from plain text. This is