Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-18 Thread Kent Karlsson
Just in case somebody has missed this: There is a public review issue very much related to this thread: http://www.unicode.org/review/pri205/, Proposed addition of AL MARK and LEVEL DIRECTION MARK, http://www.unicode.org/review/pri205/pri205-background.html. The latter proposed addition is

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Simon Montagu
On 10/15/2011 05:19 PM, Andreas Prilop wrote: I return to http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m10/att-0059/1999-12-31.html Microsoft programs (Internet Explorer, MS Word), display this as 31/12/1999 Other programs (Firefox, Opera, OpenOffice) display this as 1999/12/31

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:42:02 +0200 From: Simon Montagu smont...@smontagu.org List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 On 10/15/2011 05:19 PM, Andreas Prilop wrote: I return to http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m10/att-0059/1999-12-31.html Microsoft programs (Internet

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Simon Montagu
On 10/17/2011 10:08 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:42:02 +0200 From: Simon Montagusmont...@smontagu.org List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 On 10/15/2011 05:19 PM, Andreas Prilop wrote: I return to

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Peter Krefting
Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org: Btw, according to my testing, the current Firefox displays this as 31/12/1999. I don't have Opera or OO to check there, but it's possible that the OP was using old versions of these that were still using the old Unicode data base. It still displays as

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:35:39 +0200 From: Simon Montagu smont...@smontagu.org CC: unicode@unicode.org Sorry, I think I confused you here. I quoted the expected rendering in ASCII digits, but the testcase in fact uses Arabic-Indic digits. There's no difference in rendering of ASCII

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Peter Krefting
Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org: However, it could be that the confusion is mine, and it stems from the fact that the logical order of these characters was not stated by the OP. Is it 1999/12/31 or 31/12/1999 ? The logical order in the document that was cited is 1999/12/31 (١٩٩٩/١٢/٣١). I

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:40:02 +0100 From: Peter Krefting pe...@opera.com Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org: Btw, according to my testing, the current Firefox displays this as 31/12/1999. I don't have Opera or OO to check there, but it's possible that the OP was using old versions of

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:09:06 +0100 From: Peter Krefting pe...@opera.com Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org: However, it could be that the confusion is mine, and it stems from the fact that the logical order of these characters was not stated by the OP. Is it 1999/12/31 or

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Andreas Prilop
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Eli Zaretskii wrote: However, it could be that the confusion is mine, and it stems from the fact that the logical order of these characters was not stated by the OP. You can read the source text, no?

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Andreas Prilop
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Btw, according to my testing, the current Firefox displays this this is http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m10/att-0059/1999-12-31.html as 31/12/1999. Firefox 7 displays 1999/12/31.

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:08:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Prilop prilop4...@trashmail.net List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Eli Zaretskii wrote: Btw, according to my testing, the current Firefox displays this this is

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:57:33 +0200 Eli Zaretskii e...@gnu.org wrote: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:47:08 +0100 From: Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 HTML 4.0 and 4.0.1 Section 8.2 Paragraph 3 Section 2 states, If a document does not

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-16 Thread Richard Wordingham
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Andreas Prilop prilop4...@trashmail.net wrote: I return to http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m10/att-0059/1999-12-31.html Microsoft programs (Internet Explorer, MS Word), display this as 31/12/1999 Other programs (Firefox,

Re: Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:47:08 +0100 From: Richard Wordingham richard.wording...@ntlworld.com List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 HTML 4.0 and 4.0.1 Section 8.2 Paragraph 3 Section 2 states, If a document does not contain a displayable right-to-left character, a conforming user agent is

Arabic date format and Microsoft programs

2011-10-15 Thread Andreas Prilop
I return to http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m10/att-0059/1999-12-31.html Microsoft programs (Internet Explorer, MS Word), display this as 31/12/1999 Other programs (Firefox, Opera, OpenOffice) display this as 1999/12/31 NB: I do not ask how to write unambiguously. (This