Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-07-04 Thread Ted Hopp
I have just spent several hours reading through all of the postings of the last few weeks related to the problems arising from the current combining classes for Hebrew vowels. I appreciate how much thought so many people have given to this issue. I am an owner of a small software company that

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-07-02 Thread Owen Taylor
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 01:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philippe Verdy wrote on 06/28/2003 02:48:01 AM: If the user strikes the two keys patah and hiriq, the input method for Traditional Hebrew will generate patah,CGJ,hiriq That requires* an input method that is aware of the input context

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-07-02 Thread Peter_Constable
[Inadvertently sent just to me; forwarded with Philippe's permission] On Wednesday, July 02, 2003 7:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philippe Verdy wrote on 06/28/2003 02:48:01 AM: If the user strikes the two keys patah and hiriq, the input method for Traditional Hebrew

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-07-01 Thread Peter_Constable
Philippe Verdy wrote on 06/28/2003 02:48:01 AM: If the user strikes the two keys patah and hiriq, the input method for Traditional Hebrew will generate patah,CGJ,hiriq That requires* an input method that is aware of the input context (or of what has already been input -- but awareness of

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-06-29 Thread Jungshik Shin
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Doug Ewell wrote: Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo dot fr wrote: certainly be much less complicated than what was made for Chinese, Korean or Japanese, and quite similar to what was done to input modern Vietnamese (Latin-based)... Input methods for Vietnamese

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-06-28 Thread John Hudson
At 07:10 PM 6/27/2003, Kenneth Whistler wrote: Why? The point is that: patah, CGJ, hiriq is one thing, and hiriq, CGJ, patah is another. You *want* those sequences to be distinct, right? Even if the text has been normalized, right? That was the whole problem with: patah, hiriq

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-06-28 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo dot fr wrote: Of course it will be a little more complex than just mapping deadkeys on keyboards (because this would require using multiple deadkeys, in a non-logical input order). But it will certainly be much less complicated than what was made for

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-06-27 Thread Philippe Verdy
On Friday, June 27, 2003 3:54 AM, Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, At 03:36 PM 6/26/2003, Kenneth Whistler wrote: Why is making use of the existing behavior of existing characters a groanable kludge, if it has the desired effect and makes the required distinctions

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-06-27 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo dot fr wrote: The current use of CGJ is for sequences like: b+o, CGJ+e+u+f and e+f, CGJ+f+e+t which still encode the French words boeuf and effet, where the author gives a hint to display the sequence oe as a single ligated form instead of two separate

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-06-27 Thread Peter_Constable
Philippe Verdy wrote on 06/27/2003 04:46:56 AM: Could this finally be the missing killer ap for the CGJ? It will be perfect to allow an application like XML to encode Hebrew text using Unicode 4.0 rules (and before). It is not perfect. CGJ is supposed to be significant (and kept in the

Re: Biblical Hebrew (U+034F Combining Grapheme Joiner works)

2003-06-27 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Peter countered: Could this finally be the missing killer ap for the CGJ? It will be perfect to allow an application like XML to encode Hebrew text using Unicode 4.0 rules (and before). It is not perfect. CGJ is supposed to be significant (and kept in the text) for a variety of