Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-21 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy wrote: > And probably some remaining devices using 5-bit or 6-bit encodings... > Unicode does not specify encodings out of the UTF-* series. SCSU: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr6/ BOCU-1: (just a Technical Note, may not count as a Unicode "specification") http://www.unicode.or

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-21 Thread Philippe Verdy
bject: Re: Hexadecimal never again > Ben Dougall wrote about what is used for hex characters: > > > which'll be whatever characters happen to be used to represent those > > sections of the character set on their machines: 0x30 - 0x39, 0x41 - > > 0x46 and 0x61 - 0x66. >

Re: [OT] Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-21 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Rick McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Curtis Clark, > > > Caviar, 10kg, €FEED > > Heh, heh... Don't you mean: > > Caviar, Akg, €FEED And why not this menu: €BEEFFACE VINAIGRETTE WINE OF BOURGOGNE €A0C (3/4L)

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Rick McGowan
Curtis Clark, > Caviar, 10kg, €FEED Heh, heh... Don't you mean: Caviar, Akg, €FEED ;-) Rick

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Curtis Clark
on 2003-08-20 11:03 Rick McGowan wrote: Hex doesn't have an independent existence out in non-computing culture for, e.g., signs in the market place or monetary values. Caviar, 10kg, €FEED -- Curtis Clark http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/ Mockingbird Font Works

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Jim Allan
Ben Dougall wrote about what is used for hex characters: which'll be whatever characters happen to be used to represent those sections of the character set on their machines: 0x30 - 0x39, 0x41 - 0x46 and 0x61 - 0x66. Not in EBCDIC (and other older character sets) they aren't. There are a lot of

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Ben Dougall
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 07:03 pm, Rick McGowan wrote: What do hackers with non Latin-based languages use for hex anyway? They use 0-9, A-F, and a-f. which'll be whatever characters happen to be used to represent those sections of the character set on their machines: 0x30 - 0x39, 0x41 -

Re: RE: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Rick McGowan
> What do hackers with non > Latin-based languages use for hex anyway? They use 0-9, A-F, and a-f. Hex is used mostly by programmers, mostly for computing, and mostly in programming languages that have the digits and Latin letters built-in, and that's what compilers expect to see. Hex doesn't

RE: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Jon Hanna
> Jon I was mostly being tongue in cheek and contrasting that relative to > needing new hex digits, a base change was more likely. However, I wasn't > saying that a base change is likely. And I was being tongue in cheek (and ignorant of Ethiopian script) in suggesting the use of base 256. However

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Tex Texin
Jon Hanna wrote: > > > From a practical standpoint, I think it is more likely that the base will > > change rather than the hex characters. > > After all, digits have been constant for a long time, but the base has > > changed. Initially it was binary, then it was octal, and now hex > > arithmet

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Peter Kirk
On 20/08/2003 06:45, Jon Hanna wrote: ... The next base to have that quality is base 256, which would require us to ransack a few different alphabets and then maybe create a few symbols in order for us to represent it. No, we could just use Ethiopic. Plenty of characters there. We could even p

RE: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Jon Hanna
> From a practical standpoint, I think it is more likely that the base will > change rather than the hex characters. > After all, digits have been constant for a long time, but the base has > changed. Initially it was binary, then it was octal, and now hex > arithmetic is > common. No, first it wa

Re: Hexadecimal never again

2003-08-20 Thread Tex Texin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks, but not good enough. > > What guarantee do I have that other Unicode characters will not be added in > the future which have the property "Hex_Digit"? One solution is to join the consortium and be able to vote against such a thing happening! If it is a conce