Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-08-06 Thread Tulasi
On 8/3/10, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > Peter Constable said on Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:09:32AM +,: > > > > > a claim of IPR of any kind, and unhindered use are incompatible. > > > > Are you saying that in your capacity as an IPR lawyer? ;-) > > No. I am no longer a laweyr for past 5 years, I a

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-08-03 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Peter Constable said on Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:09:32AM +,: > > > a claim of IPR of any kind, and unhindered use are incompatible. > > Are you saying that in your capacity as an IPR lawyer? ;-) No. I am no longer a laweyr for past 5 years, I am in employment. > If the owner of IP gr

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-08-03 Thread Peter Constable
From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Mahesh T. Pai Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:54 PM > a claim of IPR of any kind, and unhindered use are incompatible. Are you saying that in your capacity as an IPR lawyer? ;-) If the owner of IP grants unhinde

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-08-02 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Doug Ewell said on Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:34:18PM -0700,: > My point was that those of us who are not IPR lawyers shouldn't pretend > to be IPR lawyers. The UTC and WG2 and Indian government can figure out > for themselves what legal obstacles, if any, need to be overcome before > the rupee

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-08-02 Thread Doug Ewell
Hey everybody, I wasn't serious about the Ryerson logo. My point was that those of us who are not IPR lawyers shouldn't pretend to be IPR lawyers. The UTC and WG2 and Indian government can figure out for themselves what legal obstacles, if any, need to be overcome before the rupee sign can be en

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-08-01 Thread Shriramana Sharma
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: > The real question IMHO is whether the Ryerson company will be able to > sue the Indian government for appropriating a too-similar logo. > > http://www.ryerson.com/ I don't think it's a too similar logo. There are probably many companies out th

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-31 Thread Andrew West
On 31 July 2010 08:54, William_J_G Overington wrote: > > I wonder how long all of the balloting will take and how long will be idle > time between ballots and meetings. The standardization process and balloting regulations that govern ISO/IEC 10646 are set out in Part 1 of the ISO/IEC Directives

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-31 Thread William_J_G Overington
On Friday 30 July 2010, John H. Jenkins wrote: > Obviously this is an important new symbol, and I'm sure > that WG2 and the UTC will make every effort to encode it as > expeditiously as possible.  As for exactly how long it > will take, neither WG2 nor the UTC has even *met* since this > hit the

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Jul 30, 2010, at 5:01 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: > Is there any good reason why people cannot arrange that the new symbol is > fully encoded into Unicode and ISO 10646 by 31 December 2010, that is, before > the end of the present decade, ready to use in the next decade? > > If there

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Doug Ewell
The real question IMHO is whether the Ryerson company will be able to sue the Indian government for appropriating a too-similar logo. http://www.ryerson.com/ I wonder how many people on this list who are expressing legal opinions are actually licensed to practice law anywhere. -- Doug Ewell | Th

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Rick McGowan
On 7/30/2010 4:01 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote: I find it strange that for a new currency symbol that is to come into use in six months that, in the twenty-first century, with all the modern communication methods available, that encoding in Unicode will take longer than six months. Willia

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Philippe Verdy
"Jonathan Rosenne" > Why does one require implementation laws to define a code point in > Unicode for a new currency symbol? And what does it have to do with > ISCII or keyboard layouts or usage or non-usage by people within India > or abroad? The national law (or an explicit licencing published

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Everson
On 30 Jul 2010, at 12:02, Vinod Kumar wrote: > With great difficulty we have managed to bury ISCII or at least make it > irrelevant. > Kindly do not resurrect it. Amen to that. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

RE: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
> From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On > Behalf Of verdy_p > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:23 PM > To: Michael Everson; shi zhao > Cc: unicode@unicode.org > Subject: Re: Indian new rupee sign > > > De : "Michael Everson"

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Vinod Kumar
On 7/30/10, verdy_p wrote: > > > > India will first need to realize that adapting the ISCII standard will be > tricky (there is no more any common byte > value available in its various 8-bit subtables, even if all of them have > empty positions, so the basic one-to-one > transliteration schemes as

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread William_J_G Overington
I find it strange that for a new currency symbol that is to come into use in six months that, in the twenty-first century, with all the modern communication methods available, that encoding in Unicode will take longer than six months. Is there any good reason why people cannot arrange that the

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread verdy_p
> De : "Michael Everson" > I like the video clip there. "Encoding in Indian standards will take about > six months. Encoding in the Unicode and IEC standards will take about 18 months to two years." > > Sounds as though our Government of India colleagues gave them good advice. > > Michael Ev

Re: Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Everson
On 30 Jul 2010, at 08:54, shi zhao wrote: > see > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Cabinet-approves-new-rupee-symbol/articleshow/6171234.cms I like the video clip there. "Encoding in Indian standards will take about six months. Encoding in the Unicode and IEC standards will

Indian new rupee sign

2010-07-30 Thread shi zhao
see http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Cabinet-approves-new-rupee-symbol/articleshow/6171234.cms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rupee_sign Chinese wikipedia: h