Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-09 Thread Antoine Leca
Peter C. wrote: >> font vendors are creating fonts that use Unicode, platform vendors >> (at least Mac and Windows -- Linux is too fractured a scene to >> make a general statement) On Monday, December 6th, 2004 18:40Z Edward H. Trager va escriure: > > The really big, important applications and co

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-08 Thread John Cowan
Michael Everson scripsit: > >I think it's more accurate to say that you need to find a way to > >compensate the font developer for his effort; this need not involve > >money. > >I, for example, create programs and give them to people for a reward I > >consider sufficient; professionally, I write

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Everson
At 22:15 -0500 2004-12-07, John Cowan wrote: I think it's more accurate to say that you need to find a way to compensate the font developer for his effort; this need not involve money. I, for example, create programs and give them to people for a reward I consider sufficient; professionally, I writ

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-07 Thread John Hudson
John Cowan wrote: OpenType is a trademark of Microsoft and a proprietary font format jointly developed by Microsoft and Adobe. The question is, is it an open standard? That is, is anyone free to create OpenType fonts, OpenType font tools, OpenType font renderers? Is the documentation freely ava

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-07 Thread John Cowan
John Hudson scripsit: > OpenType is a trademark of Microsoft and a proprietary font format > jointly developed by Microsoft and Adobe. The question is, is it an open standard? That is, is anyone free to create OpenType fonts, OpenType font tools, OpenType font renderers? Is the documentation f

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-06 Thread John Hudson
Peter R. Mueller-Roemer wrote: wITH 'it' you refer to OpenType ? So OpentType are Type-faces= fonts that are only open by leaving technical details unrestricted to font-designers, text-processing-software? Then it's name is another MISNOMER (the word Open can't be made proprietary by itself, so

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-06 Thread Edward H. Trager
> I suspect that font vendors generally do not use the term "unicode-font" > as it is ambiguous: the intent would be to mean that the font comforms > to Unicode encoding, but most customers out there would understand it to > mean that it covers all the characters in Unicode. For the most part, > f

RE: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-06 Thread Peter Constable
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Peter R. Mueller-Roemer > > It has always been a proprietary font format. It has never been > > anything but proprietary. > wITH 'it' you refer to OpenType ? So OpentType are Type-faces= fonts > that are only open by leaving tech

Re: OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-06 Thread Doug Ewell
Peter R. Mueller-Roemer wrote: > The Unicode-Standard I hope is Open in the sense that any font that is > designed to this standard may call itself a unicode-font (complete or > partial ...). > > Unicode has a great potential to remove the language-specific > boundaries from web-communication, bu

OpenType not for Open Communication?

2004-12-06 Thread Peter R. Mueller-Roemer
John Hudson wrote: Philippe Verdy wrote: Is there a way outside OpenType for other system vendors than Microsoft and Apple? This standard loks more and more proprietary... It has always been a proprietary font format. It has never been anything but proprietary. John Hudson wITH 'it' you refer t