Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-15 Thread Michael Everson
On 15 Sep 2013, at 02:32, Asmus Freytag asm...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On 9/14/2013 12:19 PM, Michael Everson wrote: And as a book designer and publisher, I think that having large spaces after a full stop is both unnecessary and vulgar. Quote from the blog: This does not change my view.

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-15 Thread Stephan Stiller
On 9/14/2013 6:24 AM, Michael Everson wrote: It facilitates comment by those who are reviewing the text. If you add proofreaders' marks to an especially difficult manuscript, maybe. I've barely seen annotated papers with comments that would not have fit into the margins, and there's still the

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Jim Allan
On 14/09/2013 6:42, Michael Everson wrote: On 14 Sep 2013, at 02:30, Stephan Stiller stephan.stil...@gmail.com wrote: This means that this dot will then need to be followed by two spaces when it is used as a sentence-ending period. This tradition is no longer current in the US. Though it's

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Everson
On 14 Sep 2013, at 19:11, Jim Allan jallan...@rogers.com wrote: See http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324 which claims with numerous examples that Michael Everson is totally wrong. It's what I was taught. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Peter Zilahy Ingerman, PhD
And, FWIW, so also was I taught, in a typing class in 1952. Peter On 2013-09-14 14:44, Michael Everson wrote: On 14 Sep 2013, at 19:11, Jim Allan jallan...@rogers.com wrote: See http://www.heracliteanriver.com/?p=324 which claims with numerous examples that Michael Everson is totally

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Michael Everson
And as a book designer and publisher, I think that having large spaces after a full stop is both unnecessary and vulgar. On 14 Sep 2013, at 20:12, Peter Zilahy Ingerman, PhD p...@ingerman.org wrote: And, FWIW, so also was I taught, in a typing class in 1952. Peter On 2013-09-14 14:44,

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:19:54PM +0100, Michael Everson wrote: And as a book designer and publisher, I think that having large spaces after a full stop is both unnecessary and vulgar. As a book consumer, I know that having somewhat larger space after end-of-sentence is a MUST (at least for

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Philippe Verdy
But this article is excellent. Even if it also contains opinions of the author about aberrant French practices, some of them are still prevalent such as the persistant use of an extra spacing before colon, semi-colon, exclamation and question marks, and within guillemets: - the practice is still

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Philippe Verdy
For sure, large spaces will look ugly with texts written with very short sentences like yours, because that will create ugly rivers everywhere. Consider that it is a matter of style, which must be adapted to the nature of texts and author's own lingusitic style. - If you had to typeset the Bible

Re: Origin of Ellipsis and double spacing after a sentence.

2013-09-14 Thread Asmus Freytag
On 9/14/2013 12:19 PM, Michael Everson wrote: And as a book designer and publisher, I think that having large spaces after a full stop is both unnecessary and vulgar. Quote from the blog: While the modern convention is the single space, it is no less arbitrary than any other, and if