Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-21 Thread Allen Haaheim
tc. Allen - Original Message - From: "Richard Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kenneth Whistler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Richard Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 4:45

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-21 Thread Jim Melton
I hate to disagree, but... At 11:41 2003-06-21 +0930 Saturday, Kevin Brown wrote: Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) wrote: >I am generating the PDF using XSLFO/FOP and Arial Unicode MS font >for Global languages.And during Implementation I found that Bold/Italics >character are not appearing in bold/Itali

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-21 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 16:45 -0700 2003-06-20, Richard Cook wrote: > >Of course, in pop e-print, nearly everything that can be done to a > >character is done ... including Bold-Ital-Outline-Shadow ... > > Hey, there's no reason only Latin typography should be filled with

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Kevin Brown
Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) wrote: >I am generating the PDF using XSLFO/FOP and Arial Unicode MS font >for Global languages.And during Implementation I found that Bold/Italics >character are not appearing in bold/Italic in PDF which was coming >there is any Issue with Arial Unicode Font for Bold/I

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
Philippe Verdy wrote on 06/20/2003 03:29:17 PM: > I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers are not > used to it. For Arabic it may cause problems because of the placement > of diacritic points. Thai type designers are extremely creative and not afraid of doing with Thai

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 16:45 -0700 2003-06-20, Richard Cook wrote: Of course, in pop e-print, nearly everything that can be done to a character is done ... including Bold-Ital-Outline-Shadow ... Hey, there's no reason only Latin typography should be filled with vulgarism... -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Richard Cook
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 02:44 , Kenneth Whistler wrote: What is true is that use of italicized text is unusual in Chinese or Japanese body text--certainly not with the frequency or same range of functions as occurs in Latin typography. Bold text is not that unusual, however. In precomputer Ch

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 14:44 -0700 2003-06-20, Kenneth Whistler wrote: > I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers are not used to it. For body text, in documents or on web pages, I would agree. A wide range of oblique styles have been used in many Indian scripts for a very long time now.

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sat, 2003-06-21 at 02:04, Michael Everson wrote: > Roozbeh informs me that "oblique [Naskh] is a standard things > nowadays, specially since it can usually be done automatically in > software. Both slanted and backslanted." Certainly I saw italic > signage in Kabul. Just to confirm. BTW, o

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Philippe Verdy, > But it's true that complex scripts like Han will be poorly rendered in Bold > or Italic... But does someone actually wants to read Han text with Bold > characters (or even worse slanted with Italic) ? What is true is that use of italicized text is unusual in Chinese or Japanese

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:03 -0400 2003-06-20, John Cowan wrote: Michael Everson scripsit: >I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers >are not used to it. For Arabic it may cause problems because of the >placement of diacritic points. It sounds as though you are guessing. Well, I certainl

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Everson
At 22:29 +0200 2003-06-20, Philippe Verdy wrote: I think that Italic is to avoid for most Asian scripts, as readers are not used to it. For Arabic it may cause problems because of the placement of diacritic points. It sounds as though you are guessing. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Christopher John Fynn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In Windows, if you specify bold with "Arial Unicode" the Windows > font rasterizer will generally try to imitate bold > artificially - but this often looks pretty bad. Windows will > also try to imitate italic by slanting the font. The Arial Unic

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Christopher John Fynn
- Original Message - From: "Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Edward H Trager'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: RE: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITAL

RE: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-20 Thread Peter_Constable
> Edward, >thanks for the response. Is it possible to integrate glyph for > bold and italic in arialuni.ttf or can I have one font which support all > the languages and also have related glyph for bold and italic. Bold and italic need to be separate font files, and these do not exist for Aria

RE: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-19 Thread Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS)
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:23 PM To: Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF To my knowledge, MS Arial Unicode does not contain glyphs for bold and italic styles. For Latin and the other blocks of Unicode

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-19 Thread Edward H Trager
To my knowledge, MS Arial Unicode does not contain glyphs for bold and italic styles. For Latin and the other blocks of Unicode covered in the standard Arial font, there are bold and italic versions: arial.ttf- Standard arial arialbd.ttf - bold arialbi.ttf - bold italic ariali.ttf - itali

Re: Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-19 Thread Stefan Persson
Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS) wrote: I am generating the PDF using XSLFO/FOP and Arial Unicode MS font for Global languages.And during Implementation I found that Bold/Italics character are not appearing in bold/Italic in PDF which was coming properly perfect with other font like courier. Please

Problem with Arial Unicode MS font for BOLD/ITALICS in PDF

2003-06-19 Thread Jain, Pankaj (MED, TCS)
Hi All,     I am generating the PDF using XSLFO/FOP and Arial Unicode MS font for Global languages.And during Implementation I found that Bold/Italics character are not appearing  in bold/Italic in PDF which was coming properly perfect with other font like courier. Please let me know if the