RE: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread John Hudson
At 04:03 5/13/2002, Marco Cimarosti wrote: >On the basis of this precedent, and on the basis of the fact that sample >glyphs on old copies Unicode book's will have a strong influence on font >designers for years, it may be wise in this case to leave the old >U+0643-like character alone and add a

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Amir Herman wrote: > As conclusion, I would say that we can still preserve the existing U+6AC > because it is not wrong, only the glyph is not standard and limited in > its use. Later on I might send some images to clarify my argument. The > task now is to add another glyph

RE: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread Marco Cimarosti
John Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Amir, you are misunderstanding the nature of Unicode. Unicode is a > *character* encoding standard, and the glyphs in the charts > are intended only as a visual guide suggesting normative shapes > for those characters. On the other hand, we know that thi

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-13 Thread Michael Everson
At 10:14 +0800 2002-05-13, Amir Herman wrote: >Dear Roozbeh, > >I would strongly suggest that instead of correcting the U+6AC, we >add another glyph of 'GA' of letter 'KEHEH' (U+6A9) with dot above. >It is not 100% wrong of saying >that existing U+6AC represent 'GA' for old malay. Only that the

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-12 Thread John Hudson
At 22:57 5/12/2002, Amir Herman wrote: >If this is the case, why in Unicode it have Arabic Presentation A & C to >present the final, medial, and initial form of Arabic characters? Ah, this is an historical oddity. Character inclusion in Unicode is governed by a number of principles, which are n

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-12 Thread Amir Herman
Quoting John Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Amir, you are misunderstanding the nature of Unicode. Unicode is a > *character* encoding standard, and the glyphs in the charts are intended > only as a visual guide suggesting normative shapes for those characters. In > the case of Arabic, a single c

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-12 Thread John Hudson
At 19:14 5/12/2002, Amir Herman wrote: >I would strongly suggest that instead of correcting the U+6AC, we add >another glyph of 'GA' of letter 'KEHEH' (U+6A9) with dot above. It is not >100% wrong of saying >that existing U+6AC represent 'GA' for old malay. Only that the glyph is >in 'rare' sh

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-12 Thread Amir Herman
Quoting Roozbeh Pournader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 7 May 2002, Kenneth Whistler wrote: > > > However, I also think it is quite clear that U+06AC ARABIC LETTER KAF > > WITH DOT ABOVE is the one that was intentionally encoded for the Jawi > > ga character. This has been marked as an "old Mal

Re: To submit or not to submit

2002-05-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Kenneth Whistler wrote: > However, I also think it is quite clear that U+06AC ARABIC LETTER KAF > WITH DOT ABOVE is the one that was intentionally encoded for the Jawi > ga character. This has been marked as an "old Malay" letter ever since > Unicode 1.0. > > The error would