Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-02 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode
On 2/2/2020 5:22 PM, Richard Wordingham via Unicode wrote: On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 16:20:07 -0800 Eric Muller via Unicode wrote: That would imply some coordination among variations sequences on different code points, right? E.g. <0B48> ≡ <0B47, 0B56>,

Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-02 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 16:20:07 -0800 Eric Muller via Unicode wrote: > That would imply some coordination among variations sequences on > different code points, right? > > E.g. <0B48> ≡ <0B47, 0B56>, so a variation sequence on 0B56 (Mn, > ccc=0) would imply the existence of a variation sequence on 0

Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-02 Thread Eric Muller via Unicode
That would imply some coordination among variations sequences on different code points, right? E.g. <0B48> ≡ <0B47, 0B56>, so a variation sequence on 0B56 (Mn, ccc=0) would imply the existence of a variation sequence on 0B48 with the same variation selector

Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-02 Thread Mark Davis ☕️ via Unicode
I don't think there is a technical reason for disallowing variation selectors after any starters (ccc=000); the normalization algorithm doesn't care about the general category of characters. Mark On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 10:09 AM Richard Wordingham via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > On S

Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-02 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 07:51:56 -0800 Ken Whistler via Unicode wrote: > What it comes down to is avoidance of conundrums involving canonical > reordering for normalization. The effect of variation selectors is > defined in terms of an immediate adjacency. If you allowed variation > selectors to be

Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-02 Thread Ken Whistler via Unicode
Richard, What it comes down to is avoidance of conundrums involving canonical reordering for normalization. The effect of variation selectors is defined in terms of an immediate adjacency. If you allowed variation selectors to be defined for combining marks of ccc!=0, then normalization of se

Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-01 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 17:59:57 -0800 Roozbeh Pournader via Unicode wrote: > They are actually allowed on combining marks of ccc=0. We even define > one such variation sequence for Myanmar, IIRC. > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 2:12 PM Richard Wordingham via Unicode < > unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > >

Re: Combining Marks and Variation Selectors

2020-02-01 Thread Roozbeh Pournader via Unicode
They are actually allowed on combining marks of ccc=0. We even define one such variation sequence for Myanmar, IIRC. On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 2:12 PM Richard Wordingham via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > Why are variation selectors not allowed for combining marks? I can see > a reason for t