Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-21 Thread Timothy Partridge
John Jenkins said: > On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Timothy Partridge wrote: > > > Yes, especially early printing of Latin documents. See for example > > Gutenberg's bibles. > > > > Well, for that matter, even current editions of Spenser's _Faerie > Queene_ will use the occasional "õ

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-21 Thread Timothy Partridge
John Hudson recently said: > At 12:29 PM 1/16/2003, Timothy Partridge wrote: > > >Charles Trice Martin wrote "The Record Interpreter" which lists words in > >record type and their expansion. The 2nd Edition (1910) has been reprinted > >many times. The 1999 reprint is a facsimile of the 1910 editio

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-17 Thread Christoph Päper
Me, Myself & I: > > "m" with a macron above. I can't find any such character in Unicode, It seems as if I'm not the first one to wonder: although there's the use in bi [Bislama] and yo [Yoruba] listed instead. Never heard of /those/ langu

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-17 Thread John Hudson
At 01:06 AM 1/17/2003, Otto Stolz wrote: John Hudson wrote: Ken's suggestion works fine, but only on discreetly selected runs of text. In other words, it would be up to the user *not* to apply the glyph substitution layout feature in the circumstances Otto describes. [...] Obviously this is

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-17 Thread Otto Stolz
Kenneth Whistler had written: Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations should not be encoded as characters. The text should just be represented as "m" + "m". Then, if you wish to *render* such text in a font which mimics this style of handwriting and uses such abbreviations, then y

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John Hudson
At 12:29 PM 1/16/2003, Timothy Partridge wrote: Charles Trice Martin wrote "The Record Interpreter" which lists words in record type and their expansion. The 2nd Edition (1910) has been reprinted many times. The 1999 reprint is a facsimile of the 1910 edition, rather than being re-typeset. The

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John Hudson
At 01:59 AM 1/16/2003, Otto Stolz wrote: Kenneth Whistler wrote: Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations should not be encoded as characters. The text should just be represented as "m" + "m". Then, if you wish to *render* such text in a font which mimics this style of handwritin

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Timothy Partridge wrote: Yes, especially early printing of Latin documents. See for example Gutenberg's bibles. Well, for that matter, even current editions of Spenser's _Faerie Queene_ will use the occasional "õ" for "on," and so on. == J

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Timothy Partridge
Cristoph Päper recently said: > Kenneth Whistler: > > Christoph Päper asked: > > > >> writing "mm" as only one "m" with a macron above. > > > > Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations > > should not be encoded as characters. > > Although I've got no proof for it, I was told that

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Otto Stolz
Dominikus Scherkl wrote: "i. e." is an latin abbreviation for "in exemplum" meaning "for example" not "that is". "i. e." = "id est" = "that is" "e. g." = "exempli gratia" = "for example" Cassel's English-German Dictionary, ISBN 0-02-522920-6, also says so. Best wishes, Otto Stolz

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Doug Ewell
I've got a lot less to write since everybody else got there first. Christoph Päper wrote: > I recently learned in that there has > been a tradition (in handwritten text more than in print) of writing > "mm" as only one "m" with a macron above. I can't find any suc

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 01:35 PM, Kenneth Whistler wrote: Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations should not be encoded as characters. The text should just be represented as "m" + "m". Then, if you wish to *render* such text in a font which mimics this style of handwr

RE: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Frank da Cruz
> The convention of using a horizontal line to mark an abbreviation, often > the omission of m or n, goes back to the middle ages (if not earlier) > and was often used in early printed books; apparently it has lived on in > some handwriting, to judge from your post. > It was used in English too, se

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread John Cowan
Dominikus Scherkl scripsit: > "i. e." is an latin abbreviation for "in exemplum" meaning "for example" > not "that is". (or am I not even average at english?!?) It is a Latin abbreviation, but it stands for "id est", and therefore corresponds to German "d. h." The abbreviation for "for example"

RE: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Dominikus Scherkl
> the spelling "i. e." would [not] distort the content of "that is" ? "i. e." is an latin abbreviation for "in exemplum" meaning "for example" not "that is". (or am I not even average at english?!?) -- Dominikus Scherkl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Otto Stolz
Christoph Päper had asked: there has been a tradition (in handwritten text more than in print) of writing "mm" as only one "m" with a macron above. I can't find any such character in Unicode, You could of course build something similar with "m"+U+0305 to resemble the look, but that won't becom

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-16 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Christoph Päper asked: > I recently learned in that there has been a > tradition (in handwritten text more than in print) of writing "mm" as only > one "m" with a macron above. I can't find any such character in Unicode, > just U+1E3F and U+1E41. > You could of cour

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-15 Thread Christoph Päper
Kenneth Whistler: > Christoph Päper asked: > >> writing "mm" as only one "m" with a macron above. > > Handwritten forms and arbitrary manuscript abbreviations > should not be encoded as characters. Although I've got no proof for it, I was told that it has also been used in print. > The text shou

Re: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-15 Thread Markus Scherer
David J. Perry wrote: The convention of using a horizontal line to mark an abbreviation, often the omission of m or n, goes back to the middle ages (if not earlier) and was often used in early printed books; apparently it has lived on in some handwriting, to judge from your post. ... I can confi

RE: Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-15 Thread David J. Perry
Christoph, The convention of using a horizontal line to mark an abbreviation, often the omission of m or n, goes back to the middle ages (if not earlier) and was often used in early printed books; apparently it has lived on in some handwriting, to judge from your post. There is no such m-macron c

Small Latin Letter m with Macron

2003-01-15 Thread Christoph Päper
Hello, I recently learned in that there has been a tradition (in handwritten text more than in print) of writing "mm" as only one "m" with a macron above. I can't find any such character in Unicode, just U+1E3F and U+1E41. You could of course build something similar