Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Lars Marius Garshol | | We just need a single display function that does glyph shaping and | no more. Is that available somewhere? * Deborah Goldsmith | | It's possible to do that with the direct access API. Excellent! That's precisely what we need. (Thank you.) -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ont

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 01:55 PM, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > We just need a single display function that does glyph shaping and no > more. Is that available somewhere? > It's possible to do that with the direct access API. Deborah Goldsmith Manager, Fonts & Unicode Apple Computer, In

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Lars Marius Garshol | | That function also applies the bidirectional algorithm to the text | it displays. However, since the application needs to do all manner | of strange formatting (colouring, interspersed images, first-line | specials, first-letter specials, base-line adjustments, ...) it |

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 04:09 AM, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > That function also applies the bidirectional algorithm to the text it > displays. However, since the application needs to do all manner of > strange formatting (colouring, interspersed images, first-line > specials, first-let

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread J M Craig
Sorry for the off-topic comment, but Deborah Goldsmith's comment about the value of info in an e-mail seems to me to have an obvious answer: On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 04:01 PM, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > Thank you very much for this. This kind of succinct no-nonsense > summary is wor

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Deborah Goldsmith | | By default, RTL scripts are displayed in compliance with the Unicode | bidirectional algorithm. * Lars Marius Garshol | | Ouch. That may work in some situations, but for a web browser that | can never work, since the display mechanism will never have enough | information

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Everson
At 09:23 +0200 2002-08-28, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: >| By default, RTL scripts are displayed in compliance with the Unicode >| bidirectional algorithm. > >Ouch. That may work in some situations, but for a web browser that can >never work, since the display mechanism will never have enough >info

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-28 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Lars Marius Garshol | | Thank you very much for this. This kind of succinct no-nonsense | summary is worth its weight in gold. (Collecting the same | information through the normal sources might easily consume weeks.) * Deborah Goldsmith | | Hmmm. Since it was sent electronically, I'm not qui

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-27 Thread Aki Inoue
John, Since you're dealing with Polytonic Greek, I suppose your original file is a plain text Unicode. First of all, the issue with TextEdit showing GB 18030 over Unicode seems to be a bug in the application. The logic here is simply selecting a character encoding that can represent all the c

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-27 Thread John Delacour
On Sat Aug 24 2002 - 13:18:08 EDT Deborah Goldsmith wrote: >- Keyboards may be installed by dragging in the Finder to >/Library/Keyboard Layouts/, ~/Library/Keyboard Layouts/, or >/Network/Library/Keyboard Layouts/, then logging out and logging back >in. This is excellent news. I have just succ

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-27 Thread Deborah Goldsmith
On Tuesday, August 27, 2002, at 04:01 PM, Lars Marius Garshol wrote: > Thank you very much for this. This kind of succinct no-nonsense > summary is worth its weight in gold. (Collecting the same information > through the normal sources might easily consume weeks.) Hmmm. Since it was sent electron

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-27 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Deborah Goldsmith | | As promised, here is a very quick summary of the high points (as | best I can remember without my reference materials at hand): | [...] Thank you very much for this. This kind of succinct no-nonsense summary is worth its weight in gold. (Collecting the same information th

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-25 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:56 +0200 25/08/2002, Bertrand Laidain wrote: >I'm waiting for the documentation for keyboards, is there a plan to >include in the develloper tools a tool like Resedit for X to edit the >keyboards ? My understanding is that while a graphical editor would be nice, it's not the highest prior

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-25 Thread Bertrand Laidain
John H. Jenkins wrote : >Keyboards can be straight XML now. You don't any special tools to edit >them. It's very nice that way. Michael Everson wrote : >My understanding is that while a graphical editor would be nice, it's >not the highest priority for the development team. Editing the hard

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-25 Thread John Jenkins
On Sunday, August 25, 2002, at 09:56 AM, Bertrand Laidain wrote: > I'm waiting for the documentation for keyboards, is there a plan to > include in the develloper tools a tool like Resedit for X to edit the > keyboards ? > Keyboards can be straight XML now. You don't any special tools to edit

Re: Summary of Unicode/language features in Mac OS X 10.2 "Jaguar"

2002-08-25 Thread Bertrand Laidain
This is great new, I just finish to install Jaguar and it seems promising. I just found a little bug : Lucida Grande which has the Hebrew (Yiddish) character HEBREW LIGATURE YIDDISH VAV YOD - 05F1 bad written, you read yod vav and you should read (from left to right) vav yod (like the name says),