John Hudson wrote,
>
> >Uniscribe is a windows application and Microsoft tests it. Both
> >Microsoft and Apple provide tools to font developers which validate
> >fonts. TTF/OTF fonts have a rigid structure, if a font passes either
> >Microsoft's or Apple's font validators yet a system crashes
Hi,
There is a newsletter at http://tdil.mit.gov.in/news.htm, and the
more recent one
http://tdil.mit.gov.in/tdiljan2002.pdf ( This describes some font
standardization effort )
TDIL - Technology Development in Indian languages , a Ministry IT, GOI
supported project,
More info at http://tdil
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"Michael (michka) Kaplan" wrote:
> From: "Michael Jansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Let's summarize what I have said:
> > 1 - My original posting on this thread clearly states that you need
> > to be careful when trying to use Uniscribe on Win9x, because it
> > i
At 11:04 AM 7/16/02 -0700, John Hudson wrote:
>To be fair to the poor system engineers,
To be honest to the system engineers, dealing with foreign data
without compromising system integrity is one of the basic
principles of system engineering. Crashes on fonts really
shouldn't be acceptable.
At 07:43 AM 16-07-02, James Kass wrote:
>Uniscribe is a windows application and Microsoft tests it. Both
>Microsoft and Apple provide tools to font developers which validate
>fonts. TTF/OTF fonts have a rigid structure, if a font passes either
>Microsoft's or Apple's font validators yet a syste
At 03:10 AM 16-07-02, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:
>Since you are not allowed to redistribute Latha, Mangal, et. al., this is
>really not going to be too much of a hardship for anyone playing by the
>rules, is it? :-)
There are other OpenType Indic fonts, not from Microsoft, including
freew
> I don't think you will be able to convince anyone that the original
> version of Windows 95 that you are using is a stable platform. I
> wouldn't agree at least, and I wrote parts of it.
So if I'm using an already-unstable platform (which is true, no argument
there), and Uniscribe has improved
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:32 PM
> To: Michael Jansson; 'Michael (michka) Kaplan'
> Cc: Unicode List
> Subject: Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
>
>
> Michael Jansson wrote:
>
> > Giving advice to people that they should go ahead and update th
> > Am I
> > badmouthing anyone?
> >
>
> Perhaps. Is it badmouthing someone to call them unethical
> for offering
> users instructions on how they can compute in their own language on
> their older systems?
>
> Best regards,
>
> James Kass.
It was not my intent to offend anyone and I do apo
Michael Jansson wrote:
> Giving advice to people that they should go ahead and update their
> Win9x machines with Uniscribe is plain unethical. It's not tested on
> Win9x. There are known issues when doing that. Telling people to
> download and install fonts, that may or may not have been tested
Michael Jansson wrote,
> ... People may as easily fail to
> update a Win9x system with Uniscribe and a 23KB font as they would with a
> 23MB font.
True.
> The amount of support needed to sort out these users would still
> be the same.
>
Also true. One FAQ page with brief instructions ought
From: "Michael Jansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm not arguing that you can not update one Win9x machine to
> show Tamil correctly. I'm arguing that you should not advice
> companies to tell a million web users to do that on a broad basis.
> You need test coverage, support, etc before doing that.
Michael Jansson wrote,
> > Code2000 is OpenType. Don't know about Code 2000.
>
> Ooops. Sorry about the typo.
>
That's OK. Actually, Michael Kaplan put the space in there and you
just picked it up.
I'm more concerned with the misinformation than the typo. It's
happened a couple of times whe
> Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote:
> (a) ignore the smallest of the two fonts
> (b) ignore the fact that these are EXAMPLES and that there
> may be others
(Sigh...) Size is not the main or only issue. People may as easily fail to
update a Win9x system with Uniscribe and a 23KB font as they would w
> James Kass wrote:
> > A few details; You can not use neither Arial Unicode MS nor
> > Code 2000 to
>
> Code2000 is OpenType. Don't know about Code 2000.
Ooops. Sorry about the typo.
> Most TrueType and OpenType fonts are pure Unicode fonts and have
> been all along. Font specs say that ISO
From: "Michael Jansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> OK, I managed to ensure that with my own Win9x machine.
> How do I ensure that
Amzing how I give two fonts that each support a large subrange of Unicode,
and then for the sake of disproving my point, you choose to
(a) ignore the smallest of the tw
> James Kass:
> This is a new one. Is this documented?
There is a KB (I think!?). It's easy enough to reproduce as well. Install
Latha and have a look at MS's web fonts demo site. (See John Hudson previous
mail on this list as well.)
>
> There are Indic fonts without Latin coverage. The solut
> Kind of endearing, we all love our own technologies.
> Sometimes you do go a
> bit too far, though. I think your products are pretty
> awesome, enough so
> that you can allow other products their right to be as good
> as they are. :-)
Actually, I'm probably suffering from a different ailment
From: "Michael Jansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > James Kass wrote:
> > The best way to render a Devanagari page is with Unicode encoding
> > and smart font technology. With an up-to-date version of the
> > Uniscribe software installed, Devanagari can be properly displayed
> > even on Win 9x, as
Michael Jansson wrote responding to Michael Kaplan,
> You might be OK if you play by the rules. Then again, you might not ;-)
>
You're OK if you play by the rules.
At least with me.
> A few details; You can not use neither Arial Unicode MS nor Code 2000 to
> show Indic text with Uniscribe on
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> > From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:11 PM
> > To: Michael Jansson
> > Cc: Unicode List
> > Subject: Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
> >
> >
> > Since you are not allowed to redistribute
son
> Cc: Unicode List
> Subject: Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
>
>
> Since you are not allowed to redistribute Latha, Mangal, et.
> al., this is
> really not going to be too much of a hardship for anyone
> playing by the
> rules, is it? :-)
>
> They
represented
MichKa
Michael Kaplan
Trigeminal Software, Inc. -- http://www.trigeminal.com/
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
> James Kass wrote:
> The best way to render a Devanagari page is with Unicode encoding
> and smart font technology. With an up-to-date version of the
> Uniscribe software installed, Devanagari can be properly displayed
> even on Win 9x, as long as the browser uses the Uniscribe engine.
You need
Prabhat Hedge wrote,
> >
> >>* Indian language web-sites use mis-use charset tag "x-user-defined".
> >>
> >
> >So do some non-Indian language web sites.
> >
>
> But most of them do not need CTL (Complex Text Layout) support as is
> essential for Indian scripts.
There are different reasons that p
James Kass wrote:
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Prabhat Hedge wrote,
* Indic scripts do not have any standard (as in published/registered/ recognized) font encoding that i know of.
ISCII is the standard for Indic scripts.
ISCII is not a font-encoding, I
Prabhat Hedge wrote,
> * Indic scripts do not have any standard (as in published/registered/
> recognized) font encoding that i know of.
ISCII is the standard for Indic scripts.
> * Indian language web-sites use mis-use charset tag "x-user-defined".
So do some non-Indian language web sites
resend.
Original Message
Subject:
Re: Unicode Devanagari Font in Mozilla
Date:
Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:58:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:
Prabhat Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:
Prabhat
Dipali Choudhary asked
> Every time Mozilla is using default devanagari font for showing the
> characters. What should I do to change default font?
>
Mozilla does not seem to allow you to choose a font for Devanagari.
Edit > Preferences... > Category > Appearance > Fonts
brings up a list of la
Hello,
I am newbie in the area.I am using mozilla 0.7 on Linux 7.2. I can
see devangari text in it. but there is problem of shifted matras.
What should I need to do to correctly position it.
Every time Mozilla is using default devanagari font for showing the
characters. What should I do
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