Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Adam Twardoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I agree with Michael that the simplistic approach I have envisioned would be > rather incomplete -- I'm willing to accept that limitation. I am aware of > many issues involving IMEs, "chaining" dead keys etc. I would be willing to > leave them out of the

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Adam Twardoch
Michael, Peter, and others: Thank you for the responses. I agree with Michael that the simplistic approach I have envisioned would be rather incomplete -- I'm willing to accept that limitation. I am aware of many issues involving IMEs, "chaining" dead keys etc. I would be willing to leave them ou

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Doug Ewell
Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote: > Adam was looking for this work, already done. And he gave a sample of > what he was hoping would exit, out in the wild. What he said was, "I'm looking for a way to compile a table..." > So I was merely pointing out a bunch of reasons why this was not a > practic

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Doug Ewell
Adam Twardoch wrote: > Do you know if there are human-readable versions of Windows and/or > MacOS keyboard layouts available somewhere? > > I'm looking for a way to compile a table that could look a bit like > the following: > > Platform LanguageLayoutUnicodeKeystroke > WindowsPol

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-30 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Doug Ewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michael is right, of course, that the differences between keyboards > amount to more than just the basic layout and Shift and AltGr keys. > There are custom shifting keys, dead keys, and unusual uses of Caps > Lock, not to mention Far Eastern IMEs. But I d

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-29 Thread Peter Lofting
Mac OSX keyboard layouts can be defined in XML which is a close as we get to human readability - see http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2056.html This format has been available for over a year, so there may be some published data files from 3rd Parties. Michael Everson is one such p

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-29 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Philippe Verdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If the intent is to display in a user interface which keystroke the user > must press to create a character sequence it can be useful to know the > character generated in the default state without modifiers (or the character > generated in CAPSLOCK mode

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-29 Thread Philippe Verdy
From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Such a format for Windows would be quite inadequate since it is missing many > things, such as: > > 1) The version of Windows in which it first shipped (there were minor > differences in what was in 9x vs.

Re: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-29 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
icode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format? > Do you know if there are human-readable versions of Windows and/or MacOS > keyboard layouts available somewhere? > > I'm looking

Windows and MacOS keyboard layouts in human-readable format?

2003-12-29 Thread Adam Twardoch
Do you know if there are human-readable versions of Windows and/or MacOS keyboard layouts available somewhere? I'm looking for a way to compile a table that could look a bit like the following: Platform LanguageLayoutUnicodeKeystroke WindowsPolish Polish (Programmers)