Re: [UC] Slavery Disclosure Bill

2005-04-03 Thread Brian Siano
Eric S. Raymond wrote: In the presence of measurable real-world outcomes with differences this large, treating political arguments as though all sides are morally equivalent is fatuous and destructive. It ignores the reality that ideas have consequences, and you can measure the merit of the conte

[UC] Slavery today in the United States

2005-04-03 Thread Jedidiah McKee
Wilma, and others, I wasn't talking about Thailand in my previous post. I was talking about the tens of thousands of slaves in the UNITED STATES, TODAY, which primarily come from Eastern Europe, through Mexico. I find their condition to be far more compelling than any other I have heard about, w

Re: [UC] Melani Lamond: Real Estate Star

2005-04-03 Thread Andrew Diller
Mel Rules! On Apr 1, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Cass wrote: I know that Melani is too modest to blow her own horn, but I could not help but notice that her name was plastered about last Sunday's Real Estate section of the Inky in an ad in which her amazing sales exploits were recognized by her pee

[UC] Re: Slavery today in the United States

2005-04-03 Thread Wilma de Soto
Dear Mr. McKee, Forgive me. I thought you had mentioned Bangkok in your previous post. As a teacher of English as a Second language for nearly 30 years, who has taught many people from the areas you have mentioned who have endured many horrible conditions and have made it to the US, I am not ig

Re: [UC]Judicial Elections 2005

2005-04-03 Thread PMUyehara
I'm thinking that there was one time a judge lost a retention vote. I think it was one of the group that took money from the Roofers Union. Which I suppose only reinforces your point. A related problem is that it is coincidental when good judges are elected to state court, because it is

[UC] Fwd: Missing Dog, lost on Farragut St.

2005-04-03 Thread MLamond
Per Ellie's request. --- Begin Message --- Melanie, Would you please post a message on the UC List Serve about this please. Mona, a red speckled Queensland Healer (size of a Lab, ~60 pounds), jumped the fence at 917 Farragut this morning while visiting from Maryland. If found or sighted, please

Re: [UC] Slavery Disclosure Bill

2005-04-03 Thread Brian Siano
Alex Bove wrote: I'm sorry, but if you're going to play semantic games, at least have the rhetorical skill to make a strong argument of your own: At 12:31 AM 4/3/2005 -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote: The revolutionaries in this country, despite flaws and lapses, succeeded in founding something bette

[UC] Objection

2005-04-03 Thread Dan Myers
For those people who have still own "bought persons", the term "slave" has such a derogatory manner. I cringe whenever that term is used and would hope that people are more sensitive to these types of issues. I prefer bondservant or even coadjutant. Thank you for listening! Dan - Original M

Re: [UC] Objection

2005-04-03 Thread Jedidiah McKee
Dan, (& others) I get the distinct impression that you don't get what I'm talking about. See my original posting on this: "systematically drugged, underfed, beaten and raped repeatedly until they only have energy to obey orders". I'm not talking about people whose freedom has been bought, and I'm

[UC] May 1st, West Philly Children's Fest... Clark Park

2005-04-03 Thread Vivianne T Nachmias
E. The Second Annual West Philly Children's Festival (May 1) The Second Annual West Philly Children's Festival Sunday, May 1st 11-3 at Clark Park (43rd and Chester) - Volunteers from the Penn medical, dental, and nursing schools will be teaching kids about health and safety issues. - There will

Re: [UC]Judicial Elections 2005

2005-04-03 Thread John Desmond
Salutations, gentlefolk, A couple of hays ago Mr. West said: << The only way your NO vote could actually have an impact on a race would be if a judge were so outstandingly abominable that he had actually overwhelmed voter apathy and ignorance with his awfulness. If yours was the deciding vote th

Re: [UC] Slavery Disclosure Bill

2005-04-03 Thread Benseraglio2
Lest we forget, George Washington's slaves were kept in sheds on what is now the site of the new Liberty Bell pavilion. Every July 3 for the past few years there has been a remembrance and demonstration aiming at getting some sort of historical plaque erected on that site. Two years ago on July

[UC] bike safety

2005-04-03 Thread Dan Widyono
I recall people talking about bike safety a few times previously on this list. I found this link via some other online forum: http://www.hurlburt.af.mil/basewide/sentinels/docs/cars.doc It's a pragmatic approach to bike safety. Not a bible, but useful information to take in if you're a