Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement - with listserv praise

2007-04-13 Thread Craigsolve
In a message dated 4/12/2007 10:24:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We're descended from a race of vicious, murderous apes, we're on the eve of destroying the planet, and we're going to hell in a handbasket. What's your version? You're missing the bright side:

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-13 Thread Anthony West
West' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Under Hackney, now back on campus as a professor of history, the West Philadelphia Corporation became the West Philadelphia Partnership and was restructured

[UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-13 Thread Anthony West
The logical flaw underlying most of these anti-marketing posts is to assume that if a name is used in some entity's marketing, therefore that name is *only* marketing. It's like saying, because the Philadelphia Phillies use the name Philadelphia in their marketing, therefore Philadelphia is a

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-13 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony West Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:06 AM To: UnivCity listserv Subject: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement The logical flaw underlying most of these anti-marketing posts is to assume that if a name is used in some entity's marketing, therefore

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-13 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 4/13/07 10:24:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The real debate is about neighborhood names breaking free of being labeled as University owned. I hope you all enjoy the article. S Sharieff, thanks for reminding me about the 1997 Penn Gazette article, now almost 9

Fwd: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-13 Thread pmuyehara
One thing we can agree on is that some branding just doesn't work: Central City Toyota, 4800 Chestnut St. Huh? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 9:05 AM Subject: [UC] New voice in the anti

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread Wilma de Soto
I believe the name University City was first bandied about in the early 70's and not the 60's. Also Powelton Village and Sansom Village (remember that?). It helps to have grown up here. University City has become a brand now promoted by the UCD. This is true. On 4/12/07 12:36 AM, Anthony West

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread Turner,Kathleen
From Tony West: University City isn't a good name for this neighborhood because Omar Blaik made it up. Rather, it works because it's descriptive. Three universities in this neighborhood make a massive demographic imprint: tens of thousands of residents and employees and consumers with a very

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement - fading memory

2007-04-12 Thread Craigsolve
In a message dated 4/12/2007 7:18:58 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe the name University City was first bandied about in the early 70's and not the 60's. ... It helps to have grown up here. Research VS the recollections of middle aged fading memories:

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread Glenn
literature that's fine, but I wouldn't waste time trying to make sense of his meaning. Sincerely, Glenn - Original Message - From: Turner,Kathleen To: Anthony West ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:31 AM Subject: RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread Krfapt
University City's so grand, Now that it is an elegant brand, Where things once looked so glum That they called us a slum, We've got gentrification at hand. -- Sumner A Ingmark ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Glenn wrote: I see the stickers as a brilliant reminder that we are a community of people. I see these as a rejection of boundaries drawn up in the boardroom to separate a gentrified zone from those across the border whatever the names may be. I saw a sticker the other day, and it said WAR

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread Gary J. Jastrzab
On Apr 12, 2007, at 7:16 AM, Wilma de Soto wrote: I believe the name University City was first bandied about in the early 70's and not the 60's. On 4/12/07 12:36 AM, Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newcomers should note the term University City dates back to the 1960s... Tony is

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread Wilma de Soto
Sorry. What I meant to say was that was when the full-fledged effort to make the neighborhood over began during the early 70's. Of course the Federal Homesteader's Grants began in earnest during the late 60's, but it was very low-key. In reference to the 1963 mention of University City, forgive

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Gary writes: Tony is correct. The first reference to University City of which I am aware was in Leon S. Rosenthal's 1963 book entitled A History of Philadelphia's University City. GJJ WRONG! IT WAS COINED IN THE MID 50'S DIDN'T ANY OF YOU READ THE POST BELOW? DIDN'T ANYONE

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
are going? S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:14 AM To: Turner,Kathleen; Anthony West; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Come on Kathleen. Tony

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread Ross Bender
On 4/12/07, S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are real issues here to discuss .. you know? It is a strategy of the UC-listserv to move away from the truth and twist it into humor and lies. Can we handle the truth about where we came from, where we are, and where we are

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Ross did you read the article or not? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Bender Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:22 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement On 4

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-12 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
! :-) S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Bender Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:22 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement On 4/12/07, S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement - Omar Blaik UCD

2007-04-12 Thread Craigsolve
In a message dated 4/12/2007 12:38:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: University City isn't a good name for this neighborhood because Omar Blaik made it up. Let me turn your farcical statement sarcastic. Blaik was Rodin's community development expediter, otherwise

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-11 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Glenn wrote: I thought I was supposed to be the crazy one? Do these folks really believe that everyone is that stupid? well, maybe people are just forgetful. and maybe they're missing what's meant by stickers that say 'university city is a marketing scheme.' (and maybe they're mixed up

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-11 Thread Anthony West
Newcomers should note the term University City dates back to the 1960s, whereas UCD was spawned in the '90s. Some people can be terribly forgetful of facts that inconvenience an otherwise juicy argument. University City may have been somebody's marketing scheme when the name was coined, but it

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-10 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Amara, Welcome to our dysfunctional family! S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amara Rockar Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:04 AM To: Anthony West Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-10 Thread Ross Bender
dysfunctional family! S -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Amara Rockar *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:04 AM *To:* Anthony West *Cc:* UnivCity@list.purple.com *Subject:* Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Hi

RE: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-10 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Amara..meet Ross.Ross.Amara. S -Original Message- From: Ross Bender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:05 AM To: S. Sharrieff Ali Cc: Amara Rockar; Anthony West; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Yo, who

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-10 Thread Glenn
- Original Message - From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement That's probably true. Of course, the irony is that for those of us who experience University

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-09 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Vincent/Roger wrote: I think you can just purchase so blank stickers of just about any size at Staples or Office Depot, and then run them off on a home computer. Not so much money any more what's also thrifty about the add-on stickers is that they remind us, with such economy of means, of

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-09 Thread Anthony West
That's probably true. Of course, the irony is that for those of us who experience University City as a derived bottom-up name, being told we mustn't use the term, it is verboten, because it means terrible things even if we don't mean terrible things ... this sort of PC linguistic snobbery is

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-09 Thread Amara Rockar
Hi everyone, I just subscribed to this listserve a week or so ago. I don't know anything about anyone but I did find it kind of funny that some of the people posting rants on the term University City were doing so on the UnivCity listserve. I did enjoy the history and trivia that has come out of

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-08 Thread Margie Politzer
voice in the anti-gentrification movement True. I have a pack of blank Staples Sticker Paper in my desk drawer right now. Cost under $10 for 30 8 1/2 by 11 sheets. From: Vincent/Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Date: Fri, 6

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-08 Thread SKnight
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City listservmailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Actually no. Each 8 1/2 by 11 sheet would produce multiple stickers, depending on their size

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread Margie Politzer
That¹s perfect. I love it. It seems that now there's a new group riled at the rich folk who moved in and priced everything out of reach; and they definately have a point. I noticed this afternoon that these have started popping up:

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread Jim Cummings
Its dialectical progression. Jim On 4/6/07, Margie Politzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's perfect. I love it. It seems that now there's a new group riled at the rich folk who moved in and priced everything out of reach; and they definately have a point. I noticed this afternoon that

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread Mario Giorno
Jim, Do you mean a progression of linguistic dialect or the progression of logical argument? Mario Giorno On 4/6/07, Jim Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its dialectical progression. Jim On 4/6/07, Margie Politzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's perfect. I love it. It seems

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread Jim Cummings
logical argument. I barely know what dialectical means, so don't look too deep. On 4/6/07, Mario Giorno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, Do you mean a progression of linguistic dialect or the progression of logical argument? Mario Giorno On 4/6/07, Jim Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread SKnight
] To: Frankmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement It seems that now there's a new group riled at the rich folk who moved in and priced everything out

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread Vincent/Roger
To: Kyle Cassidy ; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement It cost a lot of money to have stickers like that made. Groups like that calling themselves grass-roots and of the people give me a pain

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread SKnight
PROTECTED] To: SKnightmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Kyle Cassidymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Sande, et. al. -- I think you can just

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread SKnight
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Kyle Cassidymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Sande, et. al. -- I think you can just purchase so blank stickers of just

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread KAREN ALLEN
True. I have a pack of blank Staples Sticker Paper in my desk drawer right now. Cost under $10 for 30 8 1/2 by 11 sheets. From: Vincent/Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 12:29:53 -0500 I think you can just

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread Craigsolve
In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:55:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a pack of blank Staples Sticker Paper in my desk drawer right now. Cost under $10 for 30 8 1/2 by 11 sheets. Is this admission circumstantial evidence to your complicity in this most

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread KAREN ALLEN
In a message dated 4/6/2007 1:55:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a pack of blank Staples Sticker Paper in my desk drawer right now. Cost under $10 for 30 8 1/2 by 11 sheets. Is this admission circumstantial evidence to your complicity in this most

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-06 Thread SKnight
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity@list.purple.commailto:UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement True. I have a pack of blank Staples Sticker Paper in my desk drawer

[UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-05 Thread Kyle Cassidy
It seems that now there's a new group riled at the rich folk who moved in and priced everything out of reach; and they definately have a point. I noticed this afternoon that these have started popping up: http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/westphilly.jpg

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-05 Thread Cindy Miller
I want one of these too. -cm On Thursday, April 5, 2007, at 06:23 PM, Kyle Cassidy wrote: It seems that now there's a new group riled at the rich folk who moved in and priced everything out of reach; and they definately have a point. I noticed this afternoon that these have started

Re: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

2007-04-05 Thread Ross Bender
On 4/5/07, Kyle Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that now there's a new group riled at the rich folk who moved in and priced everything out of reach; and they definately have a point. I noticed this afternoon that these have started popping up: