All very true. However -- and concisely -- there's no legal reason and
no rational expectation you would get the kind of information you're
asking for about any other project in the city, on anybody else's
website. Not swearing it's never done; but it is seldom done.
So faulting the locals
] PennPraxis and 40th St.
Glenn moyer wrote:
These regular meetings never have agenda items publicly
announced in advance. These are not the public forums you
are pretending. Scheduled at 8 AM, it is ridiculous to
contend that it is the duty of community members to
dutifully attend all of these meetings
.
A trusted citizen journalist,
Mr. Moyer
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From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 8, 2008 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [UC] PennPraxis and 40th St.
He had about 20 minutes. That's a lot at First Thursday, because the
agenda
Glenn moyer wrote:
These regular meetings never have agenda items publicly announced in advance. These
are not the public forums you are pretending. Scheduled at 8 AM, it is ridiculous to
contend that it is the duty of community members to dutifully attend all of these meetings for the
Anthony West wrote:
Ray and Glenn are saying, then, that no meetings count as meetings and
no neighbors count as neighbors unless everyone present agrees with
Ray and Glenn.
It's hard to imagine this view carrying much weight with City officials.
Councilwoman Blackwell is wide awake at 8 am
He had about 20 minutes. That's a lot at First Thursday, because the
agenda is always packed.
No way a development of this scale can be resolved in any one 20-minute
presentation. Thus -- more meetings are needed, many more.
So, are you for more meetings or against more meetings? Take a
Anthony West wrote:
So, are you for more meetings or against more meetings? Take a stand,
concisely. More meetings, or no more meetings?
yes, let's see more meeting minutes!
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/local/40th//reference.html
http://www.sprucehillca.org/publications.html
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Subject: Re: [UC] PennPraxis and 40th St.
This community room is used as meeting space by various groups.
Collectively, any people from around the community attend these groups'
meetings there. A meeting in a senior residence hall is as normal as one
in a church hall or a school auditorium
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Subject: Re: [UC] PennPraxis and 40th St.
This community room is used as meeting space by various groups.
Collectively, any people from around the community attend these groups'
meetings there. A meeting
Ray and Glenn are saying, then, that no meetings count as meetings and
no neighbors count as neighbors unless everyone present agrees with
Ray and Glenn.
It's hard to imagine this view carrying much weight with City officials.
Councilwoman Blackwell is wide awake at 8 am when she shows up at
One year is but the blink of an eye in complex developments with zoning
and other neighborhood issues. Truly large-scale, multipartite ventures
like Bart Blatstein's transformation of Northern Liberties have been
going on since, egad, 2000 at least. Many parts of it have been
controversial in
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Subject: Re: [UC] PennPraxis and 40th St.
Anthony West wrote:
PennPraxis facilitates a regular monthly forum at which neighbors who
are either for or against the hotel proposal can communicate
This community room is used as meeting space by various groups.
Collectively, any people from around the community attend these groups'
meetings there. A meeting in a senior residence hall is as normal as one
in a church hall or a school auditorium.
I don't think the presence of senior
Glenn moyer wrote:
Anthony West wrote:
PennPraxis facilitates a regular monthly forum at
which neighbors who are either for or against the
hotel proposal can communicate and learn. This is not
a panacea, but running meetings is PennPraxis' chief
stock in trade. If regular public meetings can't
Anthony West wrote:
An opportunity arose to get first-hand information on PennPraxis'
current role in 40th St. planning.
Andrew Goodman, a planning fellow with PennPraxis, explained U Penn
originally asked PennPraxis to assist in starting the group Friends of
40th St. in 2004. That role
PennPraxis facilitates a regular monthly forum at which neighbors who
are either for or against the hotel proposal can communicate and learn.
This is not a panacea, but running meetings is PennPraxis' chief stock
in trade. If regular public meetings can't help your faction, then yes,
PennPraxis
An opportunity arose to get first-hand information on PennPraxis'
current role in 40th St. planning.
Andrew Goodman, a planning fellow with PennPraxis, explained U Penn
originally asked PennPraxis to assist in starting the group Friends of
40th St. in 2004. That role continues. PennPraxis'
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