Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-17 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Glenn wrote: Ray, I'm glad you brought this up on the list. Even though you haven't let out your anger about this, you get real ad hominem attacks aimed at you by Tony frequently. I believe this double standard has become completely accepted here in what Craig called the UCD culture. yeah,

Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-16 Thread Frank
No, he's using it correctly. It means not based on logic but not necessarily illogical. I think it's more about intention. For instance, if I called someone insane just to be mean and they happened to *be* insane in some measurable way, my comment is no less ad hominem. I love the

Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-16 Thread Glenn
- Original Message - From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: University City List UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well! I too am in favor of civility on the listserv and have previously

Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-16 Thread pmuyehara
Glenn, Could you please explain what you mean by your words in context: 1. tone 2. code of silence (I understand this in police and mob contexts, but not here) 3. the gang (who's in the gang, how do we know it exists, and does it meet?) 4. ban Some freely include tone, or breaking

Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-15 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Liz, Glenn and others for emails over the weekend concerning Liz's chiding about, and Glenn's parody of, my arrest story. I was as surprised as anyone else to see both their original posts, and their turnarounds. I am very much in favor of civility on the

Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-15 Thread Anthony West
I don't believe you are using the term ad hominem rightly. It is not merely a synonym for insulting. Ad hominem is a flaw in a *logical argument*, not a flaw in courtesy. If you call me a scoundrel, that may be uncivil of you and it may annoy me, but it is not in itself an ad hominem

[UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-14 Thread MLamond
Thanks to Liz, Glenn and others for emails over the weekend concerning Liz's chiding about, and Glenn's parody of, my arrest story. I was as surprised as anyone else to see both their original posts, and their turnarounds. I am very much in favor of civility on the listserv. As Tony

Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!

2007-05-14 Thread Glenn
Thanks Melani. I felt terrible when I stepped back and considered how badly I might have made you feel. I feel much better by apologizing and getting your reply. Maybe I can join in responsible discussions now that I'm not making a mad dash down Anger Road. Glenn - Original Message