Glenn wrote:
Ray, I'm glad you brought this up on the list. Even though you haven't
let out your anger about this, you get real ad hominem attacks aimed at
you by Tony frequently. I believe this double standard has become
completely accepted here in what Craig called the UCD culture.
yeah,
No, he's using it correctly. It means not based on logic but not
necessarily illogical. I think it's more about intention. For
instance, if I called someone insane just to be mean and they
happened to *be* insane in some measurable way, my comment is no less
ad hominem.
I love the
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From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: University City List UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!
I too am in favor of civility on the listserv and have previously
Glenn,
Could you please explain what you mean by your words in context:
1. tone
2. code of silence (I understand this in police and mob contexts, but not here)
3. the gang (who's in the gang, how do we know it exists, and does it meet?)
4. ban
Some freely include tone, or breaking
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks to Liz, Glenn and others for emails over the weekend concerning
Liz's chiding about, and Glenn's parody of, my arrest story.
I was as surprised as anyone else to see both their original posts, and
their turnarounds. I am very much in favor of civility on the
I don't believe you are using the term ad hominem rightly. It is not
merely a synonym for insulting. Ad hominem is a flaw in a *logical
argument*, not a flaw in courtesy.
If you call me a scoundrel, that may be uncivil of you and it may annoy me,
but it is not in itself an ad hominem
Thanks to Liz, Glenn and others for emails over the weekend concerning Liz's
chiding about, and Glenn's parody of, my arrest story.
I was as surprised as anyone else to see both their original posts, and their
turnarounds. I am very much in favor of civility on the listserv. As Tony
Thanks Melani. I felt terrible when I stepped back and considered how badly I
might have made you feel. I feel much better by apologizing and getting your
reply.
Maybe I can join in responsible discussions now that I'm not making a mad dash
down Anger Road.
Glenn
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