Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-08 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Anthony West wrote: Let us frame it as a true dichotomy instead. why even insist on a dichotomy? I've just finished reading a bunch of posts by various people on this list who have come up with a variety of responses about 'where to go from here,' and it sure doesn't look like options

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-08 Thread Lomb21
This might be a long-shot, but is there any way that the community could take the concept of a NID/BID and steal John Fenton? It would be an administrative nightmare for someone (would I do it?? I'm not sure). My objections to the NID/BID were with the organizational structure and its

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-08 Thread Anthony West
Lomb21, do you have a name? Of course there is a way -- if the community is prepared to pay for it. And it'll be a big bill -- in the millions of dollars. Even if you assume UCD contains waste, etc., you're still talking about recreating a substantial agency. The businesses that would have

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-08 Thread Lomb21
Thanks for getting back. My name is Guy Laren. I have been disappointed by all of the negative energy on the Listserv lately by both groups of people who have one seemingly unifying goal and passion-- a love of UC. I thought that my proposal to create this NID (or my proposed CID) by

Starting up a new Business Improvement District [was: Re: [UC] which bad thing?]

2007-06-08 Thread MLamond
Lomb21 is the landlord Guy Laren. His is not a bad idea, but you've certainly pointed out the impractical parts of it, Tony. We already tried this in 1987-88: it was called the University City Special Services District, or the UCSSD. You'll still see some of the green and purple UCSSD

[UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread Anthony West
Foes of UCD will understandably rejoice in the clear public rebuke issued it by Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell today. But those who believe UCD made a mistake face a challenge of their own: decide which action to highlight for blame and which to forgive. Those who would fault UCD for

RE: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony West Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:10 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: [UC] which bad thing? Foes of UCD will understandably rejoice in the clear public rebuke issued it by Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell today

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Anthony West wrote: Foes of UCD will understandably rejoice in the clear public rebuke issued it by Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell today. But those who believe UCD made a mistake face a challenge of their own: decide which action to highlight for blame and which to forgive. Those who would

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread Brian Siano
I don't think we've learned anything substantial beyond the loss of John Fenton. When the news broke, there were any number of accounts, and any number of theories. In the first place, _did _Fenton have his crew do anything for the Knox campaign that day? I've heard tales that the kid who'd

RE: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Subject: Re: [UC] which bad thing? I don't think we've learned anything substantial beyond the loss of John Fenton. When the news broke, there were any number of accounts, and any number of theories. In the first place, _did _Fenton have his crew do anything for the Knox campaign that day? I've heard

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread Wilma de Soto
Those who would fault UCD for potentially engaging in political activity, thereby running afoul of its 501 requirements, necessarily require an internal investigation that is both thorough and discreet. -Anthony West Forgive me and I am not trying to cute or funny, but I

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread Wilma de Soto
excellent work a bit wiser? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Siano Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:50 PM Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] which bad thing? I don't think we've learned anything substantial beyond

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread Anthony West
Um ... not really. And you shouldn't feel like you missed something obvious, Wilma. It's not obvious at all. First off, I'll bet not one in 10 of University City's 50,000 residents has even heard of University City District. Of that 5,000, I'd be amazed if one in 10 understands what UCD is, in

Re: [UC] which bad thing?

2007-06-07 Thread Dan Widyono
So as a BID, UCD reports first and foremost to its backers. It seems to me (perhaps naively) that if people want any kind of control over a BID, then, they ought to establish relationships with the backers and figure out how to convince the backers that their needs and concerns are in alignment.