Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-11 Thread Brian Siano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: / //*In a message dated 6/11/07 12:03:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:* / /[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/9/07 1:44:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ucd also: markets us, brands us, kicks businesses out and installs others, programs our entertainments,

Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-11 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 6/11/07 12:03:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 6/9/07 1:44:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > ucd also: > markets us, > brands us, > kicks businesses out and installs others, > programs our entertainments, > occupies our publi

Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-10 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
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Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-10 Thread Ross Bender
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Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-10 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray, I'd really appreciate it if you can give us an example of all or some of the above, with an explanation of how each has affected the neighborhood. hi melani. excellent question -- and you know what? I think it would be much more useful and illuminating if your

Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-10 Thread SKnight
09, 2007 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?) In a message dated 6/9/07 1:44:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ucd also: markets us, brands us, kicks businesses out and installs others, pro

Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-09 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 6/9/07 1:44:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ucd also: > > markets us, > > brands us, > > kicks businesses out and installs others, > > programs our entertainments, > > occupies our public spaces, > > populates our public buildings, > puts their agendas into our nei

Re: [UC] Funding special services (Was: which bad thing?)

2007-06-09 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
Anthony West wrote: Hi, Guy. I find all this negativism annoying too, especially when it is accompanied by a complete lack of practical thinking. I think your idea is great, and thinking about it with some good business heads could be very beneficial for University City Remember, though, about

Re: [UC] Funding special services - PA BID law

2007-06-09 Thread Dan Widyono
> Guy's line of discovery is the best way to decide either to defend or reject > UCD. It provides the information base we all need to make an informed > judgement on this question. And it has provided the longest UCList discussion I've ever read while hitting 'd' the fewest times. Dan W. Y

Re: [UC] Funding special services - PA BID law

2007-06-09 Thread Anthony West
I am extremely happy. It is the only approach to evaluating UCD that can truly answer most UC-list readers' root concern: is there a better way to run UCD than the way UCD is now running it? Guy's line of discovery is the best way to decide either to defend or reject UCD. It provides the inform

Re: [UC] Funding special services - PA BID law

2007-06-08 Thread Lomb21
On a small scale, I am happy that anyone is even considering the alternative of creating a true "community based" organization to supplement the City's services. It's probably a great way to unite the neighborhood (if it could really happen). It is a little disappointing to hear such "can'

Re: [UC] Funding special services

2007-06-08 Thread Lomb21
I don't understand all the rules regarding the establishment of these type entities, but I see it working as follows: 1) we take the structure of the NID and the Community usurps it. meaning that we have the same "taxing authority" that the NID would have had. Just the community runs

Re: [UC] Funding special services - PA BID law

2007-06-08 Thread KAREN ALLEN
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Funding special services - PA BID law Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 16:08:24 EDT ...The main reason that the UCD BID proposal has dragged on for so long is that Councilwoman Blackwell has heard that there isn't universal approval of it, so she refus

Re: [UC] Funding special services

2007-06-08 Thread KAREN ALLEN
They might feel that way, but paying more money shouldn't equate into being entitled to having more power. A person who pays more money in taxes still can cast only one vote in the political process. From: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UC] Funding special service

Re: [UC] Funding special services

2007-06-08 Thread Brian Siano
Kyle Cassidy wrote: You have to fund it somehow, and if one of the goals is to cut the big doners out (and thereby their influence), you need to make up for some of that lost revenue. And we already heard that going door to door with hat in hand doesn't seem to work. If you tax everybody, then a)

Re: [UC] Funding special services - PA BID law

2007-06-08 Thread MLamond
In a message dated 6/8/07 3:28:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You have to fund it somehow, and if one of the goals is to cut the big > doners out (and thereby their influence), you need to make up for some > of that lost revenue. And we already heard that going door to door with > hat in han

RE: [UC] Funding special services

2007-06-08 Thread Kyle Cassidy
th as well). -Original Message- From: Turner,Kathleen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:16 PM To: Kyle Cassidy; Anthony West; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] Funding special services So this would be an organization that has the power to impose taxe

RE: [UC] Funding special services

2007-06-08 Thread Turner,Kathleen
ssidy Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:13 PM To: Anthony West; UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] Funding special services I think the only practical way to do it is divide the group's budget up among all the property owners in the area and have them (us) pay for it. It eliminates two of th

RE: [UC] Funding special services

2007-06-08 Thread Kyle Cassidy
I think the only practical way to do it is divide the group's budget up among all the property owners in the area and have them (us) pay for it. It eliminates two of the problems that some people had with ucd which are: 1) uneven funding -- everybody would pay the same thing 2) representation -- t